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kiwi

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:27 pm
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all those years ago I played Civilization alot .... so I was happy when
a mate gave me his copy of Civ3 recently [hes playing Civ4]. I updated
the game to v1.29f or whatever and it runs fine. But the pdf manual on
the CD is ok for the basics but

........is there a version for the updated game ?

or an easy to read file that would help.

And how important is the diplomacy aspect ? Is there some way of
knowing when relations with a neighbor are getting to the point where
theyre gonna attack ?

and one more ... this game is great fun even if I am struggling at
lower play levels ? Which raises the issue of whether to buy Civ4 and
skip Civ3 altogether. My reading of these forums is that Civ4 has more
graphics [not impressed by that] but also a better engine [ that
matters].

cheers kiwi

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:55 am
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"kiwi" <ogme.DeleteThis@actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
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> all those years ago I played Civilization alot .... so I was happy when
> a mate gave me his copy of Civ3 recently [hes playing Civ4]. I updated
> the game to v1.29f or whatever and it runs fine. But the pdf manual on
> the CD is ok for the basics but
>
> .......is there a version for the updated game ?
>
> or an easy to read file that would help.
>
> And how important is the diplomacy aspect ? Is there some way of
> knowing when relations with a neighbor are getting to the point where
> theyre gonna attack ?
>
> and one more ... this game is great fun even if I am struggling at
> lower play levels ? Which raises the issue of whether to buy Civ4 and
> skip Civ3 altogether. My reading of these forums is that Civ4 has more
> graphics [not impressed by that] but also a better engine [ that
> matters].
>
> cheers kiwi
>

Its more configuable, thus there is a wide range of mods available to it.
In its vanilla form tho, its a better game than civ3 IMO.

IMO civ 3 was the weakest in the civ series. (for its time)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:55 am
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"kiwi" <ogme.TakeThisOut@actrix.co.nz> skrev i meddelandet
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[snip]

> and one more ... this game is great fun even if I am struggling at
> lower play levels ? Which raises the issue of whether to buy Civ4 and
> skip Civ3 altogether. My reading of these forums is that Civ4 has more
> graphics [not impressed by that] but also a better engine [ that
> matters].

My advise is to go straight for Civ IV. The AI is much better, and they have
done away with the micromanagement that drove you nuts towards the end of a
Civ III game. You can still micromanage if you want to, but you can also
automate your workers and give them quite detailed instructions about what
to do and not to do. In addition, the pollution that kept popping up in Civ
III has mercifully disappeared, together with cities going into riot. Now
there are angry citizens who refuse to work instead, and pollution works in
other ways that don't interefere with the pace of the game. On top of that,
the diplomacy is infinetismally better; now the civs actually remember good
and bad turns other civs have done them, and act accordingly. The downside
of that is that it's very difficult to be friends with everybody; if you are
chummy with a civ that another civ hates, that other civ won't like it. But
that adds to the enjoyment of the game: Which friends to cultivate? And the
resource management is tremendous fun.

Öjevind
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:55 am
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"Öjevind Lång" <bredband.net RemoveThis @ojevind.lang> writes:

> "kiwi" <ogme RemoveThis @actrix.co.nz> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1153528043.837411.282910@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> [snip]
>
>> and one more ... this game is great fun even if I am struggling at
>> lower play levels ? Which raises the issue of whether to buy Civ4 and
>> skip Civ3 altogether. My reading of these forums is that Civ4 has more
>> graphics [not impressed by that] but also a better engine [ that
>> matters].
>
> My advise is to go straight for Civ IV. The AI is much better, and they have
> done away with the micromanagement that drove you nuts towards the end of a
> Civ III game. You can still micromanage if you want to, but you can also

The biggest change is in build production. Food and shields are saved
when you go over, so there is no reason to micromanage shields when
you produce a building. I.e. if you build something that costs 50
with 7 shields/turn, after 8 turns you have 6 left over to apply to
the next thing you build, so it isn't necessary to micromanage to 8
shields on precisely one turn.

Some people complain of not being able to run Civ4 on older machines.


Eddie
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:27 am
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thanks I went and bought Civ4 and am struggling to learn that now...
thanks for the fast sales pitch....
but is there a manual for civ3 final version ??

cheers
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:55 am
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"kiwi" <ogme RemoveThis @actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
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> but is there a manual for civ3 final version ??
>

There should be one on the cd.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:02 am
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The Stare wrote:
> "kiwi" <ogme.DeleteThis@actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:1153816040.833408.212120@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > but is there a manual for civ3 final version ??
> >
>
> There should be one on the cd.

Sorry to clarify.....

What I want is a manual foe version 1.29f - the final version of the
game. The version on the CD is older and of limited use. eg it lists
the start empires as having characteristics which are different from
those in the game.
thanks
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:33 pm
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Kiwi
Try reading the readme.txt file in the Civ3 folder, it lists all the changes
made, unfortunately they never did a pdf manual upgrade

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"kiwi" <ogme RemoveThis @actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> The Stare wrote:
>> "kiwi" <ogme RemoveThis @actrix.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:1153816040.833408.212120@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>> > but is there a manual for civ3 final version ??
>> >
>>
>> There should be one on the cd.
>
> Sorry to clarify.....
>
> What I want is a manual foe version 1.29f - the final version of the
> game. The version on the CD is older and of limited use. eg it lists
> the start empires as having characteristics which are different from
> those in the game.
> thanks
>
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