New City of Heroes Newsgroup

Gandalf Parker <gandalf DeleteThis @most.of.my.favorite.sites> looked up from
reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
the signs say:

>Art Ockey <art.ockey DeleteThis @notmymail.consultant.com> wrote in
>news:Xns94F26FA96313Aartockeyconsultantco@216.168.3.44:
>
>> alt.games.coh is up!
>>
>> If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your
>> ISP or newsgroup provider and request the group be added.
>
>WOW I totally expected to make the usual response of "no its not, you need
>to do a charter".
>
>ftp.isc.org
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 10193 9003 1933 May 23 17:00 alt.games.coh.gz
>
>Excellent job!

Oh good, that means it will actually get picked up by supernews.
Eventually.

Xocyll
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:31:54 GMT, Gandalf Parker
<gandalf.DeleteThis@most.of.my.favorite.sites> wrote:

>Art Ockey <art.ockey.DeleteThis@notmymail.consultant.com> wrote in
>news:Xns94F26FA96313Aartockeyconsultantco@216.168.3.44:
>
>> alt.games.coh is up!
>>
>> If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your
>> ISP or newsgroup provider and request the group be added.
>
>WOW I totally expected to make the usual response of "no its not, you need
>to do a charter".

It's an alt group. Alt groups don't propagate well a lot of the time,
but they're about as hard to get going as setting up a website. If
that.
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Wayne Shaw <shaw DeleteThis @caprica.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the
porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:31:54 GMT, Gandalf Parker
><gandalf DeleteThis @most.of.my.favorite.sites> wrote:
>
>>Art Ockey <art.ockey DeleteThis @notmymail.consultant.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns94F26FA96313Aartockeyconsultantco@216.168.3.44:
>>
>>> alt.games.coh is up!
>>>
>>> If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your
>>> ISP or newsgroup provider and request the group be added.
>>
>>WOW I totally expected to make the usual response of "no its not, you need
>>to do a charter".
>
>It's an alt group. Alt groups don't propagate well a lot of the time,
>but they're about as hard to get going as setting up a website. If
>that.

You have just addressed WHY so many alt groups don't propagate, they
weren't "officially" created so a lot of servers won't pick them up.

Heck with some servers the only thing you'd need to do to create a group
is crosspost a message to it.
Those are the ones that advertise how they carry a few hundred thousand
groups, and that's why they have so many - they automatically add any
group referenced that doesn't already exist.

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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"Art Ockey" <art.ockey.RemoveThis@notmymail.consultant.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94F26FA96313Aartockeyconsultantco@216.168.3.44...
> alt.games.coh is up!
>
> If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your ISP
or
> newsgroup provider and request the group be added.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HA! oops, sorry thats Howard Deans line.
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:58:38 -0000, Art Ockey
<art.ockey.DeleteThis@notmymail.consultant.com> wrote:

>alt.games.coh is up!
>
>If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your ISP or
>newsgroup provider and request the group be added.

Wouldn't a better name have been alt.games.city-of-heroes? Every time
i see CoH i think Call of the Hero.. a mage EQ spell.

Plus.. if someone is searching for your NG they'd be more likely to
search on 'city' or 'heroes' or both. Searching for coh isn't as
likely.

-MJ
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"Michael Johnson" <myaddy.DeleteThis@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:h882b0lhtpht5pr2d8i529tvohgrguif2k@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:58:38 -0000, Art Ockey
> <art.ockey.DeleteThis@notmymail.consultant.com> wrote:
>
> >alt.games.coh is up!
> >
> >If you are having trouble getting to the new newsgroup, contact your ISP
or
> >newsgroup provider and request the group be added.
>
> Wouldn't a better name have been alt.games.city-of-heroes? Every time
> i see CoH i think Call of the Hero.. a mage EQ spell.
>
> Plus.. if someone is searching for your NG they'd be more likely to
> search on 'city' or 'heroes' or both. Searching for coh isn't as
> likely.


This is a common mistake. The newsgroup for the discussion of George R R
Martin books was entitled alt.fan.grrm, virtually ensuring obscurity.
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Xocyll wrote:
>
> Heck with some servers the only thing you'd need to do to create a group
> is crosspost a message to it.
> Those are the ones that advertise how they carry a few hundred thousand
> groups, and that's why they have so many - they automatically add any
> group referenced that doesn't already exist.

Cool.

I doubt comcast will, but here's trying. I'll see if I can get someone
to really add it later.

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Julie d'Aubigny <kali.magdalene.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in
news:40B12F50.67AD10F0@comcast.net:

> Xocyll wrote:
>>
>> Heck with some servers the only thing you'd need to do to create a group
>> is crosspost a message to it.
>> Those are the ones that advertise how they carry a few hundred thousand
>> groups, and that's why they have so many - they automatically add any
>> group referenced that doesn't already exist.
>
> Cool.
>
> I doubt comcast will, but here's trying. I'll see if I can get someone
> to really add it later.
>

That wont be a problem with this particular group though. Even the most
strict of newsservers will add a group if it has a charter on file at
isc.org

Gandalf Parker
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Gandalf Parker wrote:
>
> Julie d'Aubigny <kali.magdalene DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in
> news:40B12F50.67AD10F0@comcast.net:
>
> > Xocyll wrote:
> >>
> >> Heck with some servers the only thing you'd need to do to create a group
> >> is crosspost a message to it.
> >> Those are the ones that advertise how they carry a few hundred thousand
> >> groups, and that's why they have so many - they automatically add any
> >> group referenced that doesn't already exist.
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> > I doubt comcast will, but here's trying. I'll see if I can get someone
> > to really add it later.
> >
>
> That wont be a problem with this particular group though. Even the most
> strict of newsservers will add a group if it has a charter on file at
> isc.org

Comcast seems to not be so good at such things. There are a few
newsgroups that never got added, and probably never will be.

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"Julie d'Aubigny" <kali.magdalene.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:40B13255.BAF5C143@comcast.net...
> Gandalf Parker wrote:
> >
> > Julie d'Aubigny <kali.magdalene.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in
> > news:40B12F50.67AD10F0@comcast.net:
> >
> > > Xocyll wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Heck with some servers the only thing you'd need to do to create a
group
> > >> is crosspost a message to it.
> > >> Those are the ones that advertise how they carry a few hundred
thousand
> > >> groups, and that's why they have so many - they automatically add any
> > >> group referenced that doesn't already exist.
> > >
> > > Cool.
> > >
> > > I doubt comcast will, but here's trying. I'll see if I can get someone
> > > to really add it later.
> > >
> >
> > That wont be a problem with this particular group though. Even the most
> > strict of newsservers will add a group if it has a charter on file at
> > isc.org
>
> Comcast seems to not be so good at such things. There are a few
> newsgroups that never got added, and probably never will be.

Hmm... Where I am, Comcast outsources its usenet to Giganews, so any usenet
requests I might have go instead to the latter.
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In article <e952b01ghbu50ht7anmsemre1prpe17c6u.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
Xocyll.DeleteThis@kingston.net says...
> Gandalf Parker <gandalf.DeleteThis@most.of.my.favorite.sites> looked up from
> reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
> the signs say:

{Foomph...}

> >ftp.isc.org
> >-rw-rw-r-- 1 10193 9003 1933 May 23 17:00 alt.games.coh.gz
> >
> >Excellent job!
>
> Oh good, that means it will actually get picked up by supernews.
> Eventually.

Within a week if you post to supernews.general and ask.

--
Phoenix
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg Mouser <greayone.TakeThisOut@hgrown.com> wrote:

> "Michael Johnson" <myaddy.TakeThisOut@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:h882b0lhtpht5pr2d8i529tvohgrguif2k@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:58:38 -0000, Art Ockey
>> <art.ockey.TakeThisOut@notmymail.consultant.com> wrote:
>>
>> >alt.games.coh is up!
>>
>> Wouldn't a better name have been alt.games.city-of-heroes?

> This is a common mistake.[...]

And one that's virtually impossible to correct once it's been made.

G.
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Julie d'Aubigny <kali.magdalene.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in
news:40B13255.BAF5C143@comcast.net:

>> That wont be a problem with this particular group though. Even the most
>> strict of newsservers will add a group if it has a charter on file at
>> isc.org
>
> Comcast seems to not be so good at such things. There are a few
> newsgroups that never got added, and probably never will be.
>

Well they can always decide to or not based on their own guidelines. And
many wont do an automatic add. But usually sending a request to support
will get it added if there is a charter for it.

Of course you have to get it PAST the support person who might not know
what newsgroups are. So I would ask to have it forwarded to the newsserver
administrator, and provide the lines I had in my previous post to show them
that isc.org has the charter file.

Gandalf Parker
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