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\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
> Group E
> BARCELONA
> Lyon
> Stuttgart
> RANGERS FC

I dub thee 'Group of Death'.....



















...........for Rangers anyway! )

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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:01:52 +0100, Stephen Weir
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> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> Group E
>> BARCELONA
>> Lyon
>> Stuttgart
>> RANGERS FC
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>I dub thee 'Group of Death'.....
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well yeah, that's what i was going to say.

there doesn't really seem to be a group this year which you could call
unpredictable, from that draw, i'd expect the top seeds in each group
to be the top two that qualify.
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Stephen Weir wrote:
> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> Group E
>> BARCELONA
>> Lyon
>> Stuttgart
>> RANGERS FC
>
> I dub thee 'Group of Death'.....
>
> ..........for Rangers anyway! )

I agree, unfortunately, my first words after seeing the draw were... OH
BOLLOX!!!!

We'll struggle to even get third in that group

Come on the lads, prove me wrong

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "Hamish"
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>Stephen Weir wrote:
>> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>>> Group E
>>> BARCELONA
>>> Lyon
>>> Stuttgart
>>> RANGERS FC
>>
>> I dub thee 'Group of Death'.....
>>
>> ..........for Rangers anyway! )
>
>I agree, unfortunately, my first words after seeing the draw were... OH
>BOLLOX!!!!
>
>We'll struggle to even get third in that group
>
>Come on the lads, prove me wrong

can you say: "nil point"


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"Chris F" <chris.RemoveThis@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:23:22 +0100, "Hamish"
> <hamish.usenet.RemoveThis@ntlworldMONGO.com> wrote:
>
>>Stephen Weir wrote:
>>> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>>>> Group E
>>>> BARCELONA
>>>> Lyon
>>>> Stuttgart
>>>> RANGERS FC
>>>
>>> I dub thee 'Group of Death'.....
>>>
>>> ..........for Rangers anyway! )
>>
>>I agree, unfortunately, my first words after seeing the draw were... OH
>>BOLLOX!!!!
>>
>>We'll struggle to even get third in that group
>>
>>Come on the lads, prove me wrong
>
> can you say: "nil point"
>
>

Pah, Stuttgart nicked the league on the last game of the season, they dont
exactly have a strong european pedigree, we should beat them home AND away!
Lyon aren't the team that they were, and we should hopefully handle them
well enough at home, and just hope for something away.



Barcelona will pump us though!
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Stephen Weir wrote:
> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> Pah, Stuttgart nicked the league on the last game of the season.....
>
> And Rangers came where in a two horse race?

We did well to come second considering we had a manager hell-bent on
destroying us for the first half of the season!

>
>> .....they dont exactly have a strong european pedigree.....
>
> And the current Rangers team does?

How many times have Stuttgart played in european competition?
How many times has Walter Smith managed a Rangers team in europe. The
current crop of players have experience from last year, and the new boys
(except the Scots) all come from clubs who were playing in europe last year.

>
>> .....we should beat them home AND away!
>
> I'd maybe give them a chance at home to Stuttgart, but there's as
> good a chance that the Germans will sneak it.
>
>> Lyon aren't the team that they were, and we should hopefully handle
>> them well enough at home, and just hope for something away.
>
> Pure delusion. Lyon had the French league wrapped up weeks before
> the end of the season. They are more than capable of beating Rangers
> in both matches, and I fully expect them to.

As I said, they aren't the team they were when they did well in the ECL. I
dont fear them now.

>
>> Barcelona will pump us though!
>
> I expect Rangers to pick up no more than two draws in this group.

I hereby offer to bet you £10 that your expectations will be proven wrong.
Witnessed by this group - do you accept?
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\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
> Pah, Stuttgart nicked the league on the last game of the season.....

And Rangers came where in a two horse race?

> .....they dont exactly have a strong european pedigree.....

And the current Rangers team does?

> .....we should beat them home AND away!

I'd maybe give them a chance at home to Stuttgart, but there's as good a
chance that the Germans will sneak it.

> Lyon aren't the team that they were, and we should hopefully handle them well enough at home, and just hope for something
> away.

Pure delusion. Lyon had the French league wrapped up weeks before the end
of the season. They are more than capable of beating Rangers in both
matches, and I fully expect them to.

> Barcelona will pump us though!

I expect Rangers to pick up no more than two draws in this group.

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\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> And Rangers came where in a two horse race?
>>
> We did well to come second considering we had a manager hell-bent on destroying us for the first half of the season!

A retarded chimp could manage Rangers to second place (Cue Terry Butcher jokes).

>> And the current Rangers team does?
>>
> How many times have Stuttgart played in european competition?

Five out of the last six seasons for starters.

> How many times has Walter Smith managed a Rangers team in europe.

And how many European competitions did he manage to win in that time?

> The current crop of players have experience from last year, and the new boys (except the Scots) all come from clubs
> who were playing in europe last year.

I'm not sure that's going to help much if the other team is better than Rangers.

>> Pure delusion. Lyon had the French league wrapped up weeks before the end of the season. They are more than
>> capable of beating Rangers in both matches, and I fully expect them to.
>>
> As I said, they aren't the team they were when they did well in the ECL. I dont fear them now.

Unfortunately, they aren't playing against you.

>>> Barcelona will pump us though!
>>>
>> I expect Rangers to pick up no more than two draws in this group.
>>
> I hereby offer to bet you £10 that your expectations will be proven wrong. Witnessed by this group - do you accept?

Tempting, but I can get much better value by simply opposing Rangers in
every group match.

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\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> Pure delusion.
>>
> Hows *this* for delusion?

You are correct. He is just as deluded as you are.

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Stephen Weir wrote:
> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>>> And Rangers came where in a two horse race?
>>>
>> We did well to come second considering we had a manager hell-bent on
>> destroying us for the first half of the season!
>
> A retarded chimp could manage Rangers to second place (Cue Terry
> Butcher jokes).

I don't get the reference...

>
>>> And the current Rangers team does?
>>>
>> How many times have Stuttgart played in european competition?
>
> Five out of the last six seasons for starters.

I'm surprised at that. I'm sure that if you tell Joe Punter in the pub
'Stuttgart have played in europe five out of the last six seasons' he would
be surprised too. Why? Because they are not a club with a high european
footballing pedigree.

>
>> How many times has Walter Smith managed a Rangers team in europe.
>
> And how many European competitions did he manage to win in that time?

None. He did take them to within an inch of the 93 Champions league final.
Ooh, Stuttgart were in that too weren't they!?

>
>> The current crop of players have experience from last year, and the
>> new boys (except the Scots) all come from clubs who were playing in
>> europe last year.
>
> I'm not sure that's going to help much if the other team is better
> than Rangers.

'better' how? More skill? Better managerial prowess? Tactically more astute?
Experience counts for a lot in this game.

>
>>> Pure delusion. Lyon had the French league wrapped up weeks before
>>> the end of the season. They are more than capable of beating
>>> Rangers in both matches, and I fully expect them to.
>> As I said, they aren't the team they were when they did well in the
>> ECL. I dont fear them now.
>
> Unfortunately, they aren't playing against you.

*sigh*
"I dont fear for Rangers F.C. in their upcoming fixture of football (soccer)
against Lyon."
Better pedant?

>
>>>> Barcelona will pump us though!
>>>>
>>> I expect Rangers to pick up no more than two draws in this group.
>>>
>> I hereby offer to bet you £10 that your expectations will be proven
>> wrong. Witnessed by this group - do you accept?
>
> Tempting, but I can get much better value by simply opposing Rangers
> in every group match.

I doubt that you would get even money on Rangers getting two points or less.

My offer still stands. I'll even allow you 4 ponts instead of the 2 you
originally claimed.
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Stephen Weir <sweir.RemoveThis@sweir.free-online.co.uk> wrote in news:13dmlutjb9n5s59
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> \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>>> Pure delusion.
>>>
>> Hows *this* for delusion?
>
> You are correct. He is *almost* as deluded as you are.

Fixed it for you Stephen...



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Pivotalgubbins wrote:
> Fixed it for you Stephen...

It must be something in the water up there. )

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\¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/ wrote:
>> A retarded chimp could manage Rangers to second place (Cue Terry Butcher jokes).
>>
> I don't get the reference...

Maybe you should apply for the Rangers job then.

>> Five out of the last six seasons for starters.
>>
> I'm surprised at that. I'm sure that if you tell Joe Punter in the pub 'Stuttgart have played in europe five out of the
> last six seasons' he would be surprised too. Why? Because they are not a club with a high european footballing
> pedigree.

Granted it has mostly been in the UEFA Cup, but it's certainly not a secret.

>> And how many European competitions did he manage to win in that time?
>>
> None. He did take them to within an inch of the 93 Champions league final. Ooh, Stuttgart were in that too weren't
> they!?

Sorry, but I'm not taking much heart from that achievement.

>> I'm not sure that's going to help much if the other team is better than Rangers.
>>
> 'better' how? More skill? Better managerial prowess? Tactically more astute?
> Experience counts for a lot in this game.

All of the above. You make it sound as if Lyon and Stuttgart will be
wheeling out a team of kids.

>> Unfortunately, they aren't playing against you.
>>
> *sigh*
> "I dont fear for Rangers F.C. in their upcoming fixture of football (soccer) against Lyon."
> Better pedant?

Much better, although my comment still stands. I doubt Walter Smith gave
his players as biased an appraisal of the opposition as you did.

>> Tempting, but I can get much better value by simply opposing Rangers in every group match.
>>
> I doubt that you would get even money on Rangers getting two points or less.

I don't see anyone offering such a bet, but opposing Rangers in every match
will yield better than evens.

> My offer still stands. I'll even allow you 4 ponts instead of the 2 you originally claimed.

Then I accept. )

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