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dos-man

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:48 am
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I'm buying a PS2 now. I have a lot of questions about it, mainly
because I'm new to the next gen console scene. And before anyone asks,
I'm an old-school gamer, so I'm never in a hurry to pick up a system. I
wait to see if enough 'classics' are released for a system before
making my decision to purchase it or not. Some do (ps1), and some don't
(see Sega: post Genesis).

I'm starting with the PS2 because I like my mini PS1 a lot. Then, I
will get a GameCube. I will not buy an X-BOX; it is too big. They need
to make a smaller one to get me to buy it.

Is there any reason not to buy the slim ps2?

What is the last version/revision of the PS2? Does it say on the box
what revision you are getting?

The hard drive is built into it correct? How big is it and how
difficult is it to transfer files back and forth to my PC? How long is
the life expectancy of the hard drive? If the hard drive dies, will the
system still function? Does it make a lot of grinding noise like a PC
hard drive?

Does this have a web browser in it?

What kind of devices plug into the USB ports? I assume there are mice
and keyboards, but what about flash drives? Can I plug any USB mouse
into it, or only Sony brand mice.

Does the remote control come with the system? I assume it is purchased
separate. Can I watch DVDs without it?

Thanks
dos-man

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Daniel W. Rouse Jr.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:20 pm
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"dos-man" <ChairShot.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm buying a PS2 now. I have a lot of questions about it, mainly
> because I'm new to the next gen console scene. And before anyone asks,
> I'm an old-school gamer, so I'm never in a hurry to pick up a system. I
> wait to see if enough 'classics' are released for a system before
> making my decision to purchase it or not. Some do (ps1), and some don't
> (see Sega: post Genesis).
>
> I'm starting with the PS2 because I like my mini PS1 a lot. Then, I
> will get a GameCube. I will not buy an X-BOX; it is too big. They need
> to make a smaller one to get me to buy it.
>
> Is there any reason not to buy the slim ps2?
>
Only if you have games or accessories in that are not compatible with the
slim PS2?

The Sony website is supposed to have a list of games that are known to have
issues with the slim Playstation 2. The URL on the slim PS2 box is indicated
as www.us.playstation.com.

One example of this is Arcade Party Pak (PS1)--the game works almost
perfectly... except that when playing Smash TV, firing in the up direction
keeps firing up even when the button is released until another firing
direction is pressed. In terms of severity, though, I would rate this as a
low severity issue.

The manual (page 47) also indicates the following accessories are not
compatible with the slim PS2:

SCPH-20401 U: Internal Hard Disc Drive (40GB) (for Playstation 2)
SCPH-10281: Network Adaptor (Ethernet/modem) (for Playstation 2)
SCPH-1070 U: Multitap
SCPH-10090 U: Multitap (for Playstation 2)
SCPH-10040 U: Vertical stand (for Playstation 2)
SCPH-10110 U: Horizontal stand (for Playstation 2)

This is because there are different accessories for the slim PS2.

For example, the vertical stand for the slim PS2 is part number SCPH-70110 U
(and is essentially a small metal disc that screws into the left side of the
PS2, using a coin to tighten the screw).

> What is the last version/revision of the PS2? Does it say on the box
> what revision you are getting?
>

There's a few numbers on the box, but nothing that obviously says rev. # or
revision #.

When the PS2 is powered up without a disc in the drive, pressing the
Triangle button shows version information such as:

Console SCPH-75001
Browser 1.40
CD Player 2.00
PlayStation Driver 2.00
DVD Player 3.11U
MAC Address ##-##-##-##-##-##

> The hard drive is built into it correct? How big is it and how
> difficult is it to transfer files back and forth to my PC? How long is
> the life expectancy of the hard drive? If the hard drive dies, will the
> system still function? Does it make a lot of grinding noise like a PC
> hard drive?
>
The manual (page 43) indicates that Games the require use of an internal
hard disc drive (for PlayStation 2) are not compatible with this console.
This would seem to indicate that a hard drive in not built into the slim
PS2. There's also no hard drive listed in the manual for Specifications
(page 49). I don't know of any way to get hard drive games to work, although
someone else might be able to help with that if a workaround exists.

The Network connector, though, is built into the slim PS2. Note that it says
right on the box that Dial-up connection is not supported.

Also, be aware that any PS1 games will need PS1 memory cards to save data.
Furthermore, some PS1 games may require that the PS1 memory card is inserted
in slot 1 only.

There doesn't seem to be any way to get the PS1 games to save data with a
PS2 memory card in the slots, at least that I'm aware of. At the same time,
there is a way to copy data from a PS1 memory card to a PS2 memory as a way
of backing up the PS1 memory card save data (and the saved PS1 data can be
copied from the PS2 memory card back to the PS1 memory card as needed).

[snip...]

> Does the remote control come with the system? I assume it is purchased
> separate. Can I watch DVDs without it?
>
The remote control is an optional accessory.

The remote control is not essential for watching DVD's. After inserting a
DVD disc, the controller itself can be used for many of the DVD navigation
functions. Pressing the Start button also displays a graphical control panel
(pressing Start two more times makes the graphical control panel disappear).

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Dan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:17 pm
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Yikes, talk about being behind the curve LOL
"dos-man" <ChairShot DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm buying a PS2 now. I have a lot of questions about it, mainly
> because I'm new to the next gen console scene. And before anyone asks,
> I'm an old-school gamer, so I'm never in a hurry to pick up a system. I
> wait to see if enough 'classics' are released for a system before
> making my decision to purchase it or not. Some do (ps1), and some don't
> (see Sega: post Genesis).
>
> I'm starting with the PS2 because I like my mini PS1 a lot. Then, I
> will get a GameCube. I will not buy an X-BOX; it is too big. They need
> to make a smaller one to get me to buy it.
>
> Is there any reason not to buy the slim ps2?
>
> What is the last version/revision of the PS2? Does it say on the box
> what revision you are getting?
>
> The hard drive is built into it correct? How big is it and how
> difficult is it to transfer files back and forth to my PC? How long is
> the life expectancy of the hard drive? If the hard drive dies, will the
> system still function? Does it make a lot of grinding noise like a PC
> hard drive?
>
> Does this have a web browser in it?
>
> What kind of devices plug into the USB ports? I assume there are mice
> and keyboards, but what about flash drives? Can I plug any USB mouse
> into it, or only Sony brand mice.
>
> Does the remote control come with the system? I assume it is purchased
> separate. Can I watch DVDs without it?
>
> Thanks
> dos-man
>
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Glenn Shaw

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:32 pm
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"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." wrote:

> The manual (page 43) indicates that Games the require use of an
> internal hard disc drive (for PlayStation 2) are not compatible with
> this console. This would seem to indicate that a hard drive in not
> built into the slim PS2. There's also no hard drive listed in the
> manual for Specifications (page 49). I don't know of any way to get
> hard drive games to work, although someone else might be able to help
> with that if a workaround exists.

There is no hard disk drive in the slimline PS2 (there's nowhere in the
case to put it), and there is currently no practical way to connect an
external USB hard drive to it. Some people believe that the slimline model
has USB 2.0 [high-speed] connectors, but Sony has confirmed that the USB
ports on the slimline model are USB 1.1, this making the use of external
USB 2.0 hard drives impractical due to data transfer speed issues. This
hasn't stopped people from trying, though....

--
Glenn Shaw • Indianapolis, IN USA
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dos-man

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:15 am
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Dan wrote:
> Yikes, talk about being behind the curve LOL
> "dos-man" <ChairShot.RemoveThis@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Not to get into it with you, but there is nothing wrong with being
"behind the curve" when it comes to gaming. I've been hard at work for
several years trying to complete my n64, Genesis, PS1, and Atari 7800
collections. Frankly, these are all better systems than most of the
newer systems. I'll take robotron 7800 anyday over anything the
arrogant fools at microsoft could ever come up with. The new stuff at
the stores is, well, just sitting there. It isn't going anywhere. I see
no reason to rush out and grab it. I've always been behind the curve.
It saves me money and helps me avoid silly mistakes that other gamers
often make, such as buying a Sega Saturn or reserving an XBOX that is
bigger than my house.

dos-man
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:19 am
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Daniel W. Rouse Jr. wrote:
> "dos-man" <ChairShot.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm buying a PS2 now. I have a lot of questions about it, mainly
> > because I'm new to the next gen console scene. And before anyone asks,
> > I'm an old-school gamer, so I'm never in a hurry to pick up a system. I
> > wait to see if enough 'classics' are released for a system before
> > making my decision to purchase it or not. Some do (ps1), and some don't
> > (see Sega: post Genesis).
> >
> > I'm starting with the PS2 because I like my mini PS1 a lot. Then, I
> > will get a GameCube. I will not buy an X-BOX; it is too big. They need
> > to make a smaller one to get me to buy it.
> >
> > Is there any reason not to buy the slim ps2?
> >
> Only if you have games or accessories in that are not compatible with the
> slim PS2?
>
> The Sony website is supposed to have a list of games that are known to have
> issues with the slim Playstation 2. The URL on the slim PS2 box is indicated
> as www.us.playstation.com.
>
> One example of this is Arcade Party Pak (PS1)--the game works almost
> perfectly... except that when playing Smash TV, firing in the up direction
> keeps firing up even when the button is released until another firing
> direction is pressed. In terms of severity, though, I would rate this as a
> low severity issue.
>
> The manual (page 47) also indicates the following accessories are not
> compatible with the slim PS2:
>
> SCPH-20401 U: Internal Hard Disc Drive (40GB) (for Playstation 2)
> SCPH-10281: Network Adaptor (Ethernet/modem) (for Playstation 2)
> SCPH-1070 U: Multitap
> SCPH-10090 U: Multitap (for Playstation 2)
> SCPH-10040 U: Vertical stand (for Playstation 2)
> SCPH-10110 U: Horizontal stand (for Playstation 2)
>
> This is because there are different accessories for the slim PS2.
>
> For example, the vertical stand for the slim PS2 is part number SCPH-70110 U
> (and is essentially a small metal disc that screws into the left side of the
> PS2, using a coin to tighten the screw).
>
> > What is the last version/revision of the PS2? Does it say on the box
> > what revision you are getting?
> >
>
> There's a few numbers on the box, but nothing that obviously says rev. # or
> revision #.
>
> When the PS2 is powered up without a disc in the drive, pressing the
> Triangle button shows version information such as:
>
> Console SCPH-75001
> Browser 1.40
> CD Player 2.00
> PlayStation Driver 2.00
> DVD Player 3.11U
> MAC Address ##-##-##-##-##-##
>
> > The hard drive is built into it correct? How big is it and how
> > difficult is it to transfer files back and forth to my PC? How long is
> > the life expectancy of the hard drive? If the hard drive dies, will the
> > system still function? Does it make a lot of grinding noise like a PC
> > hard drive?
> >
> The manual (page 43) indicates that Games the require use of an internal
> hard disc drive (for PlayStation 2) are not compatible with this console.
> This would seem to indicate that a hard drive in not built into the slim
> PS2. There's also no hard drive listed in the manual for Specifications
> (page 49). I don't know of any way to get hard drive games to work, although
> someone else might be able to help with that if a workaround exists.
>
> The Network connector, though, is built into the slim PS2. Note that it says
> right on the box that Dial-up connection is not supported.
>
> Also, be aware that any PS1 games will need PS1 memory cards to save data.
> Furthermore, some PS1 games may require that the PS1 memory card is inserted
> in slot 1 only.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any way to get the PS1 games to save data with a
> PS2 memory card in the slots, at least that I'm aware of. At the same time,
> there is a way to copy data from a PS1 memory card to a PS2 memory as a way
> of backing up the PS1 memory card save data (and the saved PS1 data can be
> copied from the PS2 memory card back to the PS1 memory card as needed).
>
> [snip...]
>
> > Does the remote control come with the system? I assume it is purchased
> > separate. Can I watch DVDs without it?
> >
> The remote control is an optional accessory.
>
> The remote control is not essential for watching DVD's. After inserting a
> DVD disc, the controller itself can be used for many of the DVD navigation
> functions. Pressing the Start button also displays a graphical control panel
> (pressing Start two more times makes the graphical control panel disappear).


Thank you for the information. Apparently, I got faulty info from
somebody. I was told there is a 60 gig. hard disk in it. It is very
small and slim, so I wondered where the hell it was and how skinny it
was.

dos-man
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:13 pm
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PS3 will have a 60gig HD
"dos-man" <ChairShot.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm buying a PS2 now. I have a lot of questions about it, mainly
> because I'm new to the next gen console scene. And before anyone asks,
> I'm an old-school gamer, so I'm never in a hurry to pick up a system. I
> wait to see if enough 'classics' are released for a system before
> making my decision to purchase it or not. Some do (ps1), and some don't
> (see Sega: post Genesis).
>
> I'm starting with the PS2 because I like my mini PS1 a lot. Then, I
> will get a GameCube. I will not buy an X-BOX; it is too big. They need
> to make a smaller one to get me to buy it.
>
> Is there any reason not to buy the slim ps2?
>
> What is the last version/revision of the PS2? Does it say on the box
> what revision you are getting?
>
> The hard drive is built into it correct? How big is it and how
> difficult is it to transfer files back and forth to my PC? How long is
> the life expectancy of the hard drive? If the hard drive dies, will the
> system still function? Does it make a lot of grinding noise like a PC
> hard drive?
>
> Does this have a web browser in it?
>
> What kind of devices plug into the USB ports? I assume there are mice
> and keyboards, but what about flash drives? Can I plug any USB mouse
> into it, or only Sony brand mice.
>
> Does the remote control come with the system? I assume it is purchased
> separate. Can I watch DVDs without it?
>
> Thanks
> dos-man
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:27 am
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Dan wrote:
> PS3 will have a 60gig HD
> "dos-man" <ChairShot.TakeThisOut@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:1155055695.919928.13870@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

I've got it. I like it! I have 3 arcade compilation CDs for it. I
bought those a few months ago. It's nice to be able to finally play
them. I also have the Street Fighter real arcade controller. It kicks
ass. All I need now is a memory card, a stand, and a steering wheel
(for Hard Drivin' and Super Sprint.)

Despite the high price tag, I definitely intend to buy a PS3. I doubt
that I will wait as long as I did for the previous two Sony systems. At
least I hope that I won't have to... I actually don't often purchase
CD-based systems. I still have a fondness/preference for cartridges. No
loading times. But Sony does make nice systems.

dos-man
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