Bug: Prison Camps

On Mar 14, 12:49 pm, KlingonKommand <P....DeleteThis@nurk.fnord> wrote:
> protomatter writes
>
> >the real threat has always been that the native dustoff devices in
> >this game, are attached to hyperships. now since its been that way
> >from the beginiing nobody has called foul. but if it hadnt existed and
> >someone proposed it being placed on a hypership. im sure crying foul
> >would be the voice of the day.
> >its nice that a single race can go out and get that the natives it
> >needs by simply beeming it up. but at least at ne point we had the
> >ability to slow down the rebs from getting to them all. now we dont
> >even have that. just another perk for the already strong hyperraces i
> >suppose.
>
> You could say the Rebs are the new Borg. They assimilate (grab) all the
> natives early on in every game I've played with them in.

Nah, the rebels are just the new Priv...

They run around stealing all the natives, play the contraband market
(rather than stealing contraband make it for FREE), and make people
unhappy simply with their existance (native happiness drop).

Is it just me, or does this not seem very 'rebel' like. Assuming they
are the "Rebel Forces", just like the opposite of the "Evil Empire".

So unlike the Priv, who have to pay a bunch to get the hull tech and
then pay a lot to build the ships with the native dust off, the rebels
just build falcons...

And unlike the Priv who have to run their Coves near enemy populated
areas to make money, the Rebel cantinas can run safely in the
background.

The Rebels now make the "Scum" truly look like under achievers. So
much for Priv being "target #1" like Tim intended. I would MUCH rather
go after a Rebel then a Priv if I have the choice. The rebels are far
more deadly AND annoying.

On Mar 17, 11:18 am, Mutu <M... RemoveThis @softhome.net> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 12:49 pm, KlingonKommand <P... RemoveThis @nurk.fnord> wrote:
>
> > protomatter writes
>
> > >the real threat has always been that the native dustoff devices in
> > >this game, are attached to hyperships. now since its been that way
> > >from the beginiing nobody has called foul. but if it hadnt existed and
> > >someone proposed it being placed on a hypership. im sure crying foul
> > >would be the voice of the day.
> > >its nice that a single race can go out and get that the natives it
> > >needs by simply beeming it up. but at least at ne point we had the
> > >ability to slow down the rebs from getting to them all. now we dont
> > >even have that. just another perk for the already strong hyperraces i
> > >suppose.
>
> > You could say the Rebs are the new Borg. They assimilate (grab) all the
> > natives early on in every game I've played with them in.
>
> Nah, the rebels are just the new Priv...
>
> They run around stealing all the natives, play the contraband market
> (rather than stealing contraband make it for FREE), and make people
> unhappy simply with their existance (native happiness drop).
>
> Is it just me, or does this not seem very 'rebel' like. Assuming they
> are the "Rebel Forces", just like the opposite of the "Evil Empire".
>
> So unlike the Priv, who have to pay a bunch to get the hull tech and
> then pay a lot to build the ships with the native dust off, the rebels
> just build falcons...
>
> And unlike the Priv who have to run their Coves near enemy populated
> areas to make money, the Rebel cantinas can run safely in the
> background.
>
> The Rebels now make the "Scum" truly look like under achievers. So
> much for Priv being "target #1" like Tim intended. I would MUCH rather
> go after a Rebel then a Priv if I have the choice. The rebels are far
> more deadly AND annoying.

Rebel played by default master setup (some natives) are far from being
a strong race.
Sure they have strong starting ships but that is about it, they need
to have natives to have a descent economy, (not a strong economy like
prisoners race with prisoners or simply, Solorian, Borg, Robot,
Crystal, Scavneger, UEA.). Rebel cantina are a big joke and are not
worth building they make an insignificant amount of money.

In a tight map with 1 000 000 starting pop, and about default master
setup like P4 League, Rebel as the chance for a few kills, but winning
the game very doubtful if the tier 1 (Good players), or even tier 2.

Now in a setup with many natives and a big map, sure the Rebel will
seem more powerful, but the Borg, Robot, and other fast scooping
natives race like Priv, Solorian will be very strong due to the
natives...

Lord Lancelot