Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for..

>

>

> forget the brand name offhand, but it's got a drawing of an olde-tyme
> strongman on the can.

Im pretty sure its called "armstrong's"......and its this best things
out there for this type of application!
>
> Rob
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

Rock Hard Water Putty. Most Ace Hardwares carry it.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1276469&cp&kw=r...+hard&o

I am sure you can get it in less than 6 pack at the store though.

Brian


"Rob Carroll" <robert.carroll30 DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Oct 24, 3:59 pm, m_mcgover <m_mcgo... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Which would you use for patching cabinets? Bondo? Wood putty?
>> Depends on type of repair? Please advise.
>>
>> Also, any bondo tips when it comes to mixing to get the right
>> consistancy for application?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>
> If it's available out your way, try [insert brand] Water Putty... I
> forget the brand name offhand, but it's got a drawing of an olde-tyme
> strongman on the can. It's a powder that you mix with water to the
> desired consistency. When dry, it sands like wood.
>
> Rob
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

OK, home now and just looked at the can:

DURHAM'S ROCK HARD WATER PUTTY

"tis teh shizz.

Rob


On Oct 24, 4:33 pm, Rob Carroll <robert.carrol....DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 3:59 pm, m_mcgover <m_mcgo....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Which would you use for patching cabinets? Bondo? Wood putty?
> > Depends on type of repair? Please advise.
>
> > Also, any bondo tips when it comes to mixing to get the right
> > consistancy for application?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
>
> If it's available out your way, try [insert brand] Water Putty... I
> forget the brand name offhand, but it's got a drawing of an olde-tyme
> strongman on the can. It's a powder that you mix with water to the
> desired consistency. When dry, it sands like wood.
>
> Rob
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC), Brien King
<spammehere RemoveThis @arcaderestoration.com> wrote:

>I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
>easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the putty.
> Mix until it's pink, then use.
>
>The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad
>

>Brien King

Second on the Bondo usage. It's stronger and doesn't tend to shrink
like wood putty. I also like the smell, but I'm a car guy and I'm
weird like that.
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

Rock hard water putty is not a good idea, especially if it's a significant
repair. Water putty is VERY hard, and brittle.. dries almost like
soapstone. Cabinets move and flex so over time a water putty bond won't
hold.

The two best ways i've come across have been to either replace the wood in
question, or Bondo type products. Bondo has great adhesion and build up
properties, in addition to a certain degree of flex. Most important thing
to do is get rid of old damage, dried wood and anything you can pick out
with a fingernail before you start filling damage. Standard issue wood
filler (not putty) is probably 2nd best, but it does shrink a lot and
doesn't paint well. Wood putty is a claylike substance that doesn't dry or
sand.

/b




"Tim O" <timo56 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC), Brien King
> <spammehere RemoveThis @arcaderestoration.com> wrote:
>
>>I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
>>easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the
>>putty.
>> Mix until it's pink, then use.
>>
>>The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad
>>
>
>>Brien King
>
> Second on the Bondo usage. It's stronger and doesn't tend to shrink
> like wood putty. I also like the smell, but I'm a car guy and I'm
> weird like that.
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the putty.
Mix until it's pink, then use.

The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad



Brien King
spammehere.RemoveThis@arcaderestoration.com
http://www.arcaderestoration.com

m> Which would you use for patching cabinets? Bondo? Wood putty?
m> Depends on type of repair? Please advise.
m>
m> Also, any bondo tips when it comes to mixing to get the right
m> consistancy for application?
m>
m> Thanks,
m> Scott
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

Bondo is my first choice too, get a set of the plastic applicators,
they're colored to match the correct ratio of hardner to putty. The
key is to mix the hell out of it so no unmixed filler remains, then
apply it quickly to the wood so you get good adhesion. If it starts
to set up, forget it and stop because any further use attempted will
just fall out when sanding.

I've done a number of restos using it lately and like the quick set-up
compared to no-mix fillers and sand-ability. Also it doesn't shrink
like some fillers tend to (plastic wood, I'm thinking of you).

Mike Doyle

On Oct 24, 2:59 pm, m_mcgover <m_mcgo....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Which would you use for patching cabinets? Bondo? Wood putty?
> Depends on type of repair? Please advise.
>
> Also, any bondo tips when it comes to mixing to get the right
> consistancy for application?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

I agree with prok. I've used Water Putty many times, and learned my
lesson. 1) It becomes goo again if it gets wet (not good if you use
any kind of water based paint or formica glue!), and 2) It also isn't
durable on a cabinet (just cracks, chips, crumbles). It is okay for
tiny holes but not much more than that. Bondo is the best, really!
Flexible, sands smooth, much harder and stronger than Water Putty or
any type of wood putty I've ever used.

Wade

On Oct 24, 11:25 pm, "prOk" <bso... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Rock hard water putty is not a good idea, especially if it's a significant
> repair. Water putty is VERY hard, and brittle.. dries almost like
> soapstone. Cabinets move and flex so over time a water putty bond won't
> hold.
>
> The two best ways i've come across have been to either replace the wood in
> question, or Bondo type products. Bondo has great adhesion and build up
> properties, in addition to a certain degree of flex. Most important thing
> to do is get rid of old damage, dried wood and anything you can pick out
> with a fingernail before you start filling damage. Standard issue wood
> filler (not putty) is probably 2nd best, but it does shrink a lot and
> doesn't paint well. Wood putty is a claylike substance that doesn't dry or
> sand.
>
> /b
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

Add me to the Bondo column as well. It dries hard and is easy to sand.
>From lessons learned, fill in as much of the missing damaged wood as
possible with new wood before starting with Bondo. Otherwise you'll be
layering on Bondo for days. You can also add screws before Bondo -
acts kinda like rebar. I think pr0k has some good examples on his
website. Also, Bondo and sand outside!!! That stuff is nasty for your
lungs and gets everywhere too.

Have fun!

- Craig

On Oct 24, 11:25 pm, "prOk" <bso....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Rock hard water putty is not a good idea, especially if it's a significant
> repair. Water putty is VERY hard, and brittle.. dries almost like
> soapstone. Cabinets move and flex so over time a water putty bond won't
> hold.
>
> The two best ways i've come across have been to either replace the wood in
> question, or Bondo type products. Bondo has great adhesion and build up
> properties, in addition to a certain degree of flex. Most important thing
> to do is get rid of old damage, dried wood and anything you can pick out
> with a fingernail before you start filling damage. Standard issue wood
> filler (not putty) is probably 2nd best, but it does shrink a lot and
> doesn't paint well. Wood putty is a claylike substance that doesn't dry or
> sand.
>
> /b
>
> "Tim O" <tim....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:jjsvh3l841fhngsmsmhkfelm97mdi892gt@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC), Brien King
> > <spammeh....RemoveThis@arcaderestoration.com> wrote:
>
> >>I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
> >>easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the
> >>putty.
> >> Mix until it's pink, then use.
>
> >>The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad
>
> >>Brien King
>
> > Second on the Bondo usage. It's stronger and doesn't tend to shrink
> > like wood putty. I also like the smell, but I'm a car guy and I'm
> > weird like that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

On Oct 25, 1:21 pm, Craig Yarbrough <hyarb....DeleteThis@harris.com> wrote:
> Add me to the Bondo column as well. It dries hard and is easy to sand.>From lessons learned, fill in as much of the missing damaged wood as
>
> possible with new wood before starting with Bondo. Otherwise you'll be
> layering on Bondo for days. You can also add screws before Bondo -
> acts kinda like rebar. I think pr0k has some good examples on his
> website. Also, Bondo and sand outside!!! That stuff is nasty for your
> lungs and gets everywhere too.
>
> Have fun!
>
> - Craig
>
> On Oct 24, 11:25 pm, "prOk" <bso....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rock hard water putty is not a good idea, especially if it's a significant
> > repair. Water putty is VERY hard, and brittle.. dries almost like
> > soapstone. Cabinets move and flex so over time a water putty bond won't
> > hold.
>
> > The two best ways i've come across have been to either replace the wood in
> > question, or Bondo type products. Bondo has great adhesion and build up
> > properties, in addition to a certain degree of flex. Most important thing
> > to do is get rid of old damage, dried wood and anything you can pick out
> > with a fingernail before you start filling damage. Standard issue wood
> > filler (not putty) is probably 2nd best, but it does shrink a lot and
> > doesn't paint well. Wood putty is a claylike substance that doesn't dry or
> > sand.
>
> > /b
>
> > "Tim O" <tim....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:jjsvh3l841fhngsmsmhkfelm97mdi892gt@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC), Brien King
> > > <spammeh....DeleteThis@arcaderestoration.com> wrote:
>
> > >>I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
> > >>easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the
> > >>putty.
> > >> Mix until it's pink, then use.
>
> > >>The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad
>
> > >>Brien King
>
> > > Second on the Bondo usage. It's stronger and doesn't tend to shrink
> > > like wood putty. I also like the smell, but I'm a car guy and I'm
> > > weird like that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for all of the comments and tips!

Scott
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

On Oct 26, 7:44 am, m_mcgover <m_mcgo... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 1:21 pm, Craig Yarbrough <hyarb... RemoveThis @harris.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Add me to the Bondo column as well. It dries hard and is easy to sand.>From lessons learned, fill in as much of the missing damaged wood as
>
> > possible with new wood before starting with Bondo. Otherwise you'll be
> > layering on Bondo for days. You can also add screws before Bondo -
> > acts kinda like rebar. I think pr0k has some good examples on his
> > website. Also, Bondo and sand outside!!! That stuff is nasty for your
> > lungs and gets everywhere too.
>
> > Have fun!
>
> > - Craig
>
> > On Oct 24, 11:25 pm, "prOk" <bso... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Rock hard water putty is not a good idea, especially if it's a significant
> > > repair. Water putty is VERY hard, and brittle.. dries almost like
> > > soapstone. Cabinets move and flex so over time a water putty bond won't
> > > hold.
>
> > > The two best ways i've come across have been to either replace the wood in
> > > question, or Bondo type products. Bondo has great adhesion and build up
> > > properties, in addition to a certain degree of flex. Most important thing
> > > to do is get rid of old damage, dried wood and anything you can pick out
> > > with a fingernail before you start filling damage. Standard issue wood
> > > filler (not putty) is probably 2nd best, but it does shrink a lot and
> > > doesn't paint well. Wood putty is a claylike substance that doesn't dry or
> > > sand.
>
> > > /b
>
> > > "Tim O" <tim... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:jjsvh3l841fhngsmsmhkfelm97mdi892gt@4ax.com...
>
> > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC), Brien King
> > > > <spammeh... RemoveThis @arcaderestoration.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>I used to use Wood Putty, but I prefer Bondo now. Sets up better and is
> > > >>easier to work with IMHO. You don't need much of the hardner in the
> > > >>putty.
> > > >> Mix until it's pink, then use.
>
> > > >>The biggest issue I found with Bondo is it smells bad
>
> > > >>Brien King
>
> > > > Second on the Bondo usage. It's stronger and doesn't tend to shrink
> > > > like wood putty. I also like the smell, but I'm a car guy and I'm
> > > > weird like that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks for all of the comments and tips!
>
> Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>From what I've seen Bondo is the way to go. It holds up to water much
better than other products. Many home improvement people are now
using Bondo as well on their houses too.
 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for.. 

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 >> Stay informed about: Bondo or wood putty -- what is your material of choice for..