Boarding Attempt

Can someone please explain to me how if a UEA boarding attempt with
75HG and 100crew can kill my EE 100HG on my cruiser with 360 troops
and 1939 crew?? Now clearly this is a complex game but simple logic
would suggest it should take at around 5-66 HG of 75 combat rating to
overwhelm 1 HG with combat of 410.

I checked it against the boarding simulator and it agrees 100% (with
the spreadsheet not my logic).

Help educate the ignorant.

Kaos

On 31 Jan., 12:30, Kaos <kadeba....RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Can someone please explain to me how if a UEA boarding attempt with
> 75HG and 100crew can kill my EE 100HG on my cruiser with 360 troops
> and 1939 crew?? Now clearly this is a complex game but simple logic
> would suggest it should take at around 5-66 HG of 75 combat rating to
> overwhelm 1 HG with combat of 410.
>
> I checked it against the boarding simulator and it agrees 100% (with
> the spreadsheet not my logic).
>
> Help educate the ignorant.
>
> Kaos

The rule is:

During HG blood bath phase the attacker can take his HG count x 2 and
the defender his count x 5. Then they can kill hostile HGs up to this
numbers. The killing happens at the same time.

So Even 150 HG of yours were in danger to be killed immediately.

There is a HG super duel before the blood bath phase but it takes
place only if BOTH combat values are 200 or better.
So we can have the situation where an EE with his 410er HGs wins
against HGs of strength 260 (CoM) but loses all his HGs against the
same number of HGs of another race.

It works like this:

100 times this can be processed:

With chance of 50% either the defender has the right to kill an
attacker with a kill chance of p:=DefenderHGCombat/500, or the
attacker is allowed to kill a defender HG with a chance of
q:=AttackerHGCombat/500.

It stops of course earlier if one side is completely killed.

After this the blood bath is taking place.

So we can have the single events

1) Defender kills atttacker with likelihood p
2) Defender is killed by atttacker with likelihood q
3) Nobody dies with chance of r:=1-p-q

If we assume that the loop runs 100 times the defender loss is in the
mean 100*q and the attacker loss 100*p

If the attack wants to survive the blood bath then A-100*p>5*
(D-100*q)

A > 5 * D - AttackerHGCombat + DefenderHGCombat/5

Taking EE as attacker and CoM as defender we have

A > 5 * D - 410 + 260/5 = 5 * D - 358. Of course this is only a raw
estimation as we used means. But
if the EE is attacking an UEA then A > 5 * D has definitely to be
fulfilled for leaving some EE HGs alive after blood bath. Against a
(stronger!) CoM he needs less HGs.

So one may think if one changes the super duel to something like this

k = MIN(AttackerHGCount, DefenderHGCount, 100)
DO
IF RND * AttackerHGCount > RND * DefenderHGCount THEN
DefenderHGCount = DefenderHGCount - 1
ELSE
AttackerHGCount = AttackerHGCount - 1
END IF
IF DefenderHGCount = 0 THEN EXIT DO
IF AttackerHGCount = 0 THEN EXIT DO
k = k - 1
LOOP WHILE k > 0

without limiting the super duel to 200er HGs or better.

Other forms for k are thinkable, e.g.:

k=INT(SQR(AttackerHGCount * DefenderHGCount))
k=MIN(2 * AttackerHGCount, 5 * DefenderHGCount)

One could even choose

IF RND * AttackerHGCount > RND * DefenderHGCount THEN
DefenderHGCount = DefenderHGCount - 2
ELSE
AttackerHGCount = AttackerHGCount - 5
END IF

and think about skipping the extra blood bath.

BTW: The loop is not really needed. There is a formula for the
statistics.

In either way I think the unnatural looking discontinuity at
HGCombat=200 has to be removed.

GFM GToeroe