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In the borning days of the third millennium, Aurora_The_Auror.DeleteThis@hotmail.com
wrote:
>Thanks for the reply.
>
>If a vampire tried to drain all a Uratha's blood, Rage would kick in
>when the Uratha reached her last few health points and I guess the
>blood draining would end at that point.

In any case, I believe the nWoD rule is "one template per character".
No vampire werewolves, vampire magi, or werewolf magi allowed.
Embracing someone who is already supernatural in nature simply results
in an exsanguinated corpse and a wasted Willpower point.

--
Brian Merchant

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Aurora_The_Auror.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> In Werewolf: The Foresaken, if a werewolf (Uratha) voluntarily offered
> blood to a vampire on a regular basis, would the werewolf become a
> vampire? Would anything else strange happen?

I don't know whether there are any funky effects from drinking Uratha blood, but
the Uratha would not become a vampire - it takes a tremendous effort of will on
the vampire's part and, if I recall correctly, the draining of all the
vampire-to-be's blood.

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Brian Merchant wrote:

> In any case, I believe the nWoD rule is "one template per character".
> No vampire werewolves, vampire magi, or werewolf magi allowed.
> Embracing someone who is already supernatural in nature simply results
> in an exsanguinated corpse and a wasted Willpower point.

Yep. Once you've got one supernatural template, you (generally) can't
get another. Vampires and werewolves can't Awaken, vampires and mages
will never experience the First Change, and if a vampire manages to
drain all the blood out of a werewolf or a mage, then that werewolf or
that mage just dies.

I say generally, though, because as of Predators, the Claimed count as a
supernatural template (their power trait is Synthesis, and it functions
like Blood Potency or Primal Urge except that it caps at 5), and the
Mage demo has a Claimed mage or two. But that was probably written
before Matt McFarland (who wrote it) saw the rules in Predators, and
Claimed mages don't seem to follow the same mechanics as regular
Claimed, so we can probably ignore it.

More applicable to this situation, just as werewolves can't be Embraced,
they also can't be ghouled or made thralls of the vinculum (blood bond).
However, they /are/ subject to Vitae addiction, so if you try to blood
bond a werewolf, you'll probably just end up with a werewolf you have no
control over who wants your blood like a heroin addict wants his fix.
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Stephenls wrote:
> Brian Merchant wrote:
>
> > In any case, I believe the nWoD rule is "one template per character".
> > No vampire werewolves, vampire magi, or werewolf magi allowed.
> > Embracing someone who is already supernatural in nature simply results
> > in an exsanguinated corpse and a wasted Willpower point.
>
> Yep. Once you've got one supernatural template, you (generally) can't
> get another. Vampires and werewolves can't Awaken, vampires and mages
> will never experience the First Change, and if a vampire manages to
> drain all the blood out of a werewolf or a mage, then that werewolf or
> that mage just dies.
>

Wait ... I thought in Blood Treachery or one of those it says that
vampires who embrace Mages kill the Mages' connections to their
Avatars, swapping the vampire template in and taking the Mage template
out. I could be wrong.

In any event, taking away a Mage's Avatar connection is a fate worse
than death...
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Rip Rock wrote:
> Stephenls wrote:
> > Brian Merchant wrote:
> >
> > > In any case, I believe the nWoD rule is "one template per character".
> > > No vampire werewolves, vampire magi, or werewolf magi allowed.
> > > Embracing someone who is already supernatural in nature simply results
> > > in an exsanguinated corpse and a wasted Willpower point.
> >
> > Yep. Once you've got one supernatural template, you (generally) can't
> > get another. Vampires and werewolves can't Awaken, vampires and mages
> > will never experience the First Change, and if a vampire manages to
> > drain all the blood out of a werewolf or a mage, then that werewolf or
> > that mage just dies.
> >
>
> Wait ... I thought in Blood Treachery or one of those it says that
> vampires who embrace Mages kill the Mages' connections to their
> Avatars, swapping the vampire template in and taking the Mage template
> out. I could be wrong.
>
> In any event, taking away a Mage's Avatar connection is a fate worse
> than death...

You're talking OWoD and they're talking NWoD. You're right, mind you.
But it just isn't relevant to the discussion at hand, as it were.
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