Why can't Blood Elves be warriors?

On Oct 12, 8:19 pm, "mbga...@gmail.com" <mbga... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj... RemoveThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> > and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> > just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?
>
> Blood Elves are addicted to magic. Warriors are just a little too
> "unmagical" for Blood Elves. They're also a bit frail as a race, but
> then again Gnomes can be warriors so that's not a big hold up.
>
> All in all, any more "physical" Blood Elves would have been Paladins.
> Given their forceful method of obtaining Paladin powers, there is no
> commitment or what not to obtain them, so it makes no sense that any
> of them would fight NOT using magic .

actually it's because there were too many tanks and people were
actually almost able to do something other than sit in trade chat
spamming "LF1M Tank" for 6 hours.

remember everything Blizzard does goes back to there motto of "Quanity
Time, Not Quality Time".
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"John Salerno" <johnjsal.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?

A lot of people said they should have taken out Hunters, and put in
warriors, but that would have given them an identical class-mix to Humans.

There's no other class you could really remove to put in Warrior, is there?
Not without giving the class-mix a wierder skew and raising more questions.
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"mbgaski@gmail.com" <mbgaski.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj....RemoveThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
>> and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
>> just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?
>Blood Elves are addicted to magic. Warriors are just a little too
>"unmagical" for Blood Elves. They're also a bit frail as a race, but
>then again Gnomes can be warriors so that's not a big hold up.

I don't think it's anything to do with 'unmagical' - they can be
rogues, after all. And there are warrior-class blood elf npcs - city
guards in Silvermoon for example, and others in the blood elve
settlements throughout Outland. So there's no lore reason why not,
it's a purely artificial block. Similar to the way humans can't be
hunters.

>All in all, any more "physical" Blood Elves would have been Paladins.
>Given their forceful method of obtaining Paladin powers, there is no
>commitment or what not to obtain them, so it makes no sense that any
>of them would fight NOT using magic .

I often wonder what the Naaru in Shattrath think of all these blood
elf paladins wandering around... they don't seem to mind, yet surely
they must know they are getting the power of 'the light' from dark
methods.

Dan
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"John Salerno" <johnjsal RemoveThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:470fecfa$0$21894$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races, and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game
> anyway. Did they just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?

Because they are too damn fruity.
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On 12 Pa , 23:51, John Salerno <johnj... DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?

I recall blue poster on the forums saying pretty much it (they would
have too much classes to choose from) and they chose warrior. But when
Gnomes can be warriors (quite fun combination to play TBH) and BEs
don't, that's quite weird...

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Regards
Matt
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On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj... RemoveThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?

Lore Reason:

All blood elves have some sort of magical ability, even the warrior
type NPC's in Silvermoon aren't actually warriors, they're
spellbreakers from WCIII TFT. So, a plater wearer with magical
abilties, sounds like a paladin right?

Technical Reason:

Blood elves all have some sort of magical ability, i.e. all of them
have mana tap and arcane torrent. Those 2 racial abilities work
together and can return mana to locks, mages, priests, hunters, and
paladins, and returns energy to rogues. The mana returned by
consuming 3 charges of mana tap with arcane torrent is negligible, I
don't remember the exact numbers but I do remember thinking it wasn't
really worth including it in my spell rotation after level 10. At
level 70 I can't see it being much of a use. The energy returned by
consuming 3 charges of mana tap with arcane torrent is 30 energy.
This is enough for at least 1 attack, so for rogues this can be useful
if they need some quick energy. But energy also regens very quickly,
and for soloing pulling with mana tap isn't a good idea when you can
stealth, pick pocket, and stunlock the mob while you kill it.

But the only resource warriors have is rage, and how much rage do you
let 3 charges of mana tap return? How would other races in the game
react to a warrior class who has better rage generation abilities?

Probably what should have been done is to allow BE's to be warriors
and then let mana tap + arcane torrent return health. Its not unheard
of for a warrior to have a healing ability, Draenei warriors have one.

Personally though, I could care less about being a BE warrior when
there are other races with better warrior racials, such as increased
health for tauren, and weapon specializations on orc and troll.
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:48:36 +0100, Dan wrote:

> I often wonder what the Naaru in Shattrath think of all these blood elf
> paladins wandering around... they don't seem to mind, yet surely they
> must know they are getting the power of 'the light' from dark methods.

They keep very quiet because they don't want to be the next battery.

I wonder if there's Naaru called EverReady or Duracell...
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On Oct 12, 4:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj... DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?

Because they don't want to get bloody chunks of skin and hair on their
new Versace.
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On Oct 15, 7:38 am, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj... RemoveThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> > and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> > just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?
>
> Lore Reason:
>
> All blood elves have some sort of magical ability, even the warrior
> type NPC's in Silvermoon aren't actually warriors, they're
> spellbreakers from WCIII TFT. So, a plater wearer with magical
> abilties, sounds like a paladin right?

That sounds about right, however in Mechanar, there are Blood Elf
warrior NPCs that use whirlwind, etc, so it's not out of the question.
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On Oct 15, 11:49 am, "john...@gmail.com" <john....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 7:38 am, lcpltom <lcpl....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj....RemoveThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all races,
> > > and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game anyway. Did they
> > > just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided to take away that one?
>
> > Lore Reason:
>
> > All blood elves have some sort of magical ability, even the warrior
> > type NPC's in Silvermoon aren't actually warriors, they're
> > spellbreakers from WCIII TFT. So, a plater wearer with magical
> > abilties, sounds like a paladin right?
>
> That sounds about right, however in Mechanar, there are Blood Elf
> warrior NPCs that use whirlwind, etc, so it's not out of the question.

In Botanica there is also a blood elf druid, and in Eversong there are
runestones that according to lore were created by the high elf druids
to protect them from trolls and prevent the legion from sensing their
use of magic.

So, there are lore reasons for BE being druids, and existing BE
warriors, can anyone think of a reason a BE might want to be a shaman
so we can have 1 race capable of all the currently available classes?
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On Oct 16, 10:23 am, "john...@gmail.com" <john....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 7:08 am, lcpltom <lcpl....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > In Botanica there is also a blood elf druid, and in Eversong there are
> > runestones that according to lore were created by the high elf druids
> > to protect them from trolls and prevent the legion from sensing their
> > use of magic.
>
> The Blood Elves in Botanica use science to become druids... and get
> what's coming to them later (see: Arcatraz).

Um, I'm confused here, what happens to them in Arcatraz? Arcatraz was
a prison the Naaru constructed to house dangerous demons. The few
blood elves screwing around in there are just causing problems by
releasing the prisoners.
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"john.ra@gmail.com" <john.ra RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Oct 15, 7:38 am, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 5:51 pm, John Salerno <johnj... RemoveThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Just curious. Since this seems to be the universal class for all
>> > races, and there are certainly BE "warrior" NPCs in the game
>> > anyway. Did they just want to confine BEs to 6 classes and decided
>> > to take away that one?
>>
>> Lore Reason:
>>
>> All blood elves have some sort of magical ability, even the warrior
>> type NPC's in Silvermoon aren't actually warriors, they're
>> spellbreakers from WCIII TFT. So, a plater wearer with magical
>> abilties, sounds like a paladin right?
>
> That sounds about right, however in Mechanar, there are Blood Elf
> warrior NPCs that use whirlwind, etc, so it's not out of the question.

Maybe he stole Herod's axe?

Lancelet
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Urs Steiner <invalid DeleteThis @darkstone.ch> wrote in
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> then again, nearly the same could also be said for humans (can't see
> why they shouldn't be hunters, druids or shamen). Actually even
> without perverting some power.

Druids and shamen are very close to the nature and the elements, maybe humans
don't fit?

> Dwarfs, hmm. They seem to be rather down to earth types, so I can't
> see how to give them mages or warlocks. But then again, they have
> priests doing higher magic which should open up this. Being down to
> earth would rather fit with druids & shaman, although their tendency
> to rip open the earth might be a slight deterrent there.


In the description of the Wildhammer dwarf clan, there was a mention about
druids.

After their victory against the Dark Iron, they left Grim Batol and don't
like to live under the mountains, they like more the nature and griffons,
live in the open air. They could be good druids.

Lancelet
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