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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:10 am
Post subject: Blizzard needs to kick the guy writing quest text.
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The other day I mentioned a horde quest in Borean Tundra, where the
text described entering the temple city and looking for an "angry red
orb" which, when I read from a scroll, would grant me access to the
floating necropolis overhead. As it turned out, there was no angry
red orb, and no reading involved, nothing more than running over a
glowing blue patch on the ground.
Last night I got a quest from Venomspite in Dragonblight. The quest
involved going to New Hearthglen, killing the Scarlet Onslaught
Knights, looting a riding crop from them, and using the riding crop to
steal their horse and bring it back to Venomspite. You have to do it
3 times in order to steal more horses. And the quest is kind of neat
in that once you return the horse to Venomspite, they dowse the horse
with some green sludge and turn it into a skeletal horse.
Reading the quest text, the intent is to increase the supply of mounts
for the horde. But the text mentions something that caused me to look
twice.
The quest text says something along the lines of 'I was told to get
more mounts. Do they think dreadsteeds grow up from the ground?
Well, they kind of do if there is a graveyard nearby. Go steal some
horses....'
I had to read that several times. Dreadsteeds? Dreadsteeds don't
come from graveyards, they're demons, they're summoned to this world
by warlocks. Skeletal horses come from graveyards, maybe even the
death knight mounts can be considered undead horses, but definitely
not dreadsteeds.
I know, its a minor issue, not game breaking, not a big deal. But you
would expect that the people working for Blizzard would at least be
familiar with the product, and that somewhere there would have been a
review process where someone might have said "um... these aren't
dreadsteeds." Or even that they would have a glossary of game terms
somewhere that would explain the difference between a dreadsteed and a
skeletal horse.
Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:58 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:36 am
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On Dec 4, 8:10 am, lcpltom <lcpl... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into.
I know I've seen some spelling errors. For one of the Cooking quests
it has you going to "Curiosities and Moore" (since the vendor's name
is Moore). I can't remember what is different, but the name on your
mini-map or the quest text or something, anyway, it says "Curiosities
and More".
I am an editor; I edit college textbooks. Here's how we do it: we
receive the manuscript from the author. First, I review it for grammar
and spelling mistakes. Then I send it to proofreading. Once I get the
mark-up back, I input the changes and do another review. Then it goes
to a second editor for a "second editor compilation check" - spelling,
grammar, bad page breaks, etc. Then I make those corrections and
review again. Then I send the document through spellchecker.
So that's at least three separate QA checks a book goes through, and
errors still happen.
I find it interesting every time I kick back and read the latest book
from my favourite authors from big-name publishing companies . . . and
stilll spot grammar and spelling errors.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:26 am
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:10:42 -0800 (PST), lcpltom <lcpltom.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>The other day I mentioned a horde quest in Borean Tundra, where the
>text described entering the temple city and looking for an "angry red
>orb" which, when I read from a scroll, would grant me access to the
>floating necropolis overhead. As it turned out, there was no angry
>red orb, and no reading involved, nothing more than running over a
>glowing blue patch on the ground.
>
>Last night I got a quest from Venomspite in Dragonblight. The quest
>involved going to New Hearthglen, killing the Scarlet Onslaught
>Knights, looting a riding crop from them, and using the riding crop to
>steal their horse and bring it back to Venomspite. You have to do it
>3 times in order to steal more horses. And the quest is kind of neat
>in that once you return the horse to Venomspite, they dowse the horse
>with some green sludge and turn it into a skeletal horse.
>
>Reading the quest text, the intent is to increase the supply of mounts
>for the horde. But the text mentions something that caused me to look
>twice.
>
>The quest text says something along the lines of 'I was told to get
>more mounts. Do they think dreadsteeds grow up from the ground?
>Well, they kind of do if there is a graveyard nearby. Go steal some
>horses....'
>
>I had to read that several times. Dreadsteeds? Dreadsteeds don't
>come from graveyards, they're demons, they're summoned to this world
>by warlocks. Skeletal horses come from graveyards, maybe even the
>death knight mounts can be considered undead horses, but definitely
>not dreadsteeds.
>
>I know, its a minor issue, not game breaking, not a big deal. But you
>would expect that the people working for Blizzard would at least be
>familiar with the product, and that somewhere there would have been a
>review process where someone might have said "um... these aren't
>dreadsteeds." Or even that they would have a glossary of game terms
>somewhere that would explain the difference between a dreadsteed and a
>skeletal horse.
>
>Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into.
In Storm Peaks a questgiver says he was "gifted with immorality"... I
assume he really means "immorTality" but it sure make me look twice!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:47 am
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On Dec 4, 10:36 am, neithskye
<jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 4, 8:10 am, lcpltom <lcpl....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into.
>
> I know I've seen some spelling errors. For one of the Cooking quests
> it has you going to "Curiosities and Moore" (since the vendor's name
> is Moore). I can't remember what is different, but the name on your
> mini-map or the quest text or something, anyway, it says "Curiosities
> and More".
>
> I am an editor; I edit college textbooks. Here's how we do it: we
> receive the manuscript from the author. First, I review it for grammar
> and spelling mistakes. Then I send it to proofreading. Once I get the
> mark-up back, I input the changes and do another review. Then it goes
> to a second editor for a "second editor compilation check" - spelling,
> grammar, bad page breaks, etc. Then I make those corrections and
> review again. Then I send the document through spellchecker.
>
> So that's at least three separate QA checks a book goes through, and
> errors still happen.
>
> I find it interesting every time I kick back and read the latest book
> from my favourite authors from big-name publishing companies . . . and
> stilll spot grammar and spelling errors.
>
> --
> Jill
It's even more fun to sit back and read a book from a small or local
publishing house sometimes. I got one a few years ago written by a
local guy, and WOW were there a lot of errors... and it wasn't even
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:47 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:25 pm
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Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@totalise.co.uk> wrote in news:6pq3jjF999vfU1
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> In Storm Peaks a questgiver says he was "gifted with immorality"... I
> assume he really means "immorTality" but it sure make me look twice!
ROFL. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to meet a girl like that!  >> Stay informed about: Blizzard needs to kick the guy writing quest text. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:27 am
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:17:45 +0000, Catriona R wrote:
> In Storm Peaks a questgiver says he was "gifted with immorality"... I
> assume he really means "immorTality" but it sure make me look twice!
Just wait until your reputation with them drops to "Dubious". This will open
up the quest series "[80+] Debauchery"
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:27 am
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:47:41 -0800 (PST), DarkRose wrote:
> On Dec 4, 10:36=A0am, neithskye
> <jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 8:10=A0am, lcpltom <lcpl....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into.
> >
> > I know I've seen some spelling errors. For one of the Cooking quests
> > it has you going to "Curiosities and Moore" (since the vendor's name
> > is Moore). I can't remember what is different, but the name on your
> > mini-map or the quest text or something, anyway, it says "Curiosities
> > and More".
> >
> > I am an editor; I edit college textbooks. Here's how we do it: we
> > receive the manuscript from the author. First, I review it for grammar
> > and spelling mistakes. Then I send it to proofreading. Once I get the
> > mark-up back, I input the changes and do another review. Then it goes
> > to a second editor for a "second editor compilation check" - spelling,
> > grammar, bad page breaks, etc. Then I make those corrections and
> > review again. Then I send the document through spellchecker.
> >
> > So that's at least three separate QA checks a book goes through, and
> > errors still happen.
> >
> > I find it interesting every time I kick back and read the latest book
> > from my favourite authors from big-name publishing companies . . . and
> > stilll spot grammar and spelling errors.
>
> It's even more fun to sit back and read a book from a small or local
> publishing house sometimes. I got one a few years ago written by a
> local guy, and WOW were there a lot of errors... and it wasn't even
> self-published...
I gave in to temptation when I ran across a WotLK CE box at a bookstore. I
now have Frosty, a CD with cool music, a new, bigger mousepad, 50 ingame pet
cookies from one of the TCG cards (that otherwise will stay unused, I got
cured of TCGs in my MtG days  and a book with beautiful art.
Of course, living in Switzerland all the material is in German. That art
book must be some of the worst translation I have ever seen. Luckily, there
is only a little text at the start of each chapter but each of them is case
for much hillarity. They must have run the english original through
babelfish or had a korean tranlsater. I was rolling on the floor, that alone
was worth the price of the CE
Cheers
Urbin
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:27 am
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On 5 Dec 2008 08:10:13 GMT, Urbin wrote:
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> I gave in to temptation when I ran across a WotLK CE box at a bookstore. I
> now have Frosty, a CD with cool music, a new, bigger mousepad, 50 ingame pet
> cookies from one of the TCG cards (that otherwise will stay unused, I got
> cured of TCGs in my MtG days and a book with beautiful art.
>
> Of course, living in Switzerland all the material is in German. That art
> book must be some of the worst translation I have ever seen. Luckily, there
> is only a little text at the start of each chapter but each of them is case
> for much hillarity. They must have run the english original through
> babelfish or had a korean tranlsater. I was rolling on the floor, that alone
> was worth the price of the CE
And replying to myself: I was acutally surprised, because the german
localisation they had in the game (when I still played the german client)
was in fact excellent (apart from the names of places and mobs I knew in
english for a year suddenly changing to ridiculous german ones, and even
there, the localisation was flawless, I just disliked it).
Cheers
Urbin
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:25 am
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Blizzard's priorities:
Make money first
Corrections/fixes later (in patches)
"lcpltom" <lcpltom.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:53c26557-138e-4f31-bae3-affdae9e1c4d@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> The other day I mentioned a horde quest in Borean Tundra, where the
> text described entering the temple city and looking for an "angry red
> orb" which, when I read from a scroll, would grant me access to the
> floating necropolis overhead. As it turned out, there was no angry
> red orb, and no reading involved, nothing more than running over a
> glowing blue patch on the ground.
>
> Last night I got a quest from Venomspite in Dragonblight. The quest
> involved going to New Hearthglen, killing the Scarlet Onslaught
> Knights, looting a riding crop from them, and using the riding crop to
> steal their horse and bring it back to Venomspite. You have to do it
> 3 times in order to steal more horses. And the quest is kind of neat
> in that once you return the horse to Venomspite, they dowse the horse
> with some green sludge and turn it into a skeletal horse.
>
> Reading the quest text, the intent is to increase the supply of mounts
> for the horde. But the text mentions something that caused me to look
> twice.
>
> The quest text says something along the lines of 'I was told to get
> more mounts. Do they think dreadsteeds grow up from the ground?
> Well, they kind of do if there is a graveyard nearby. Go steal some
> horses....'
>
> I had to read that several times. Dreadsteeds? Dreadsteeds don't
> come from graveyards, they're demons, they're summoned to this world
> by warlocks. Skeletal horses come from graveyards, maybe even the
> death knight mounts can be considered undead horses, but definitely
> not dreadsteeds.
>
> I know, its a minor issue, not game breaking, not a big deal. But you
> would expect that the people working for Blizzard would at least be
> familiar with the product, and that somewhere there would have been a
> review process where someone might have said "um... these aren't
> dreadsteeds." Or even that they would have a glossary of game terms
> somewhere that would explain the difference between a dreadsteed and a
> skeletal horse.
>
> Wondering what other quest text errors I am going to run into. >> Stay informed about: Blizzard needs to kick the guy writing quest text. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:43 am
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On Dec 5, 5:15 am, "David Z" <d....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Blizzard's priorities:
> Make money first
> Corrections/fixes later (in patches)
Speaking again from a writer/editor point of view, think just for a
minute how much written material there is in WoW. Quest logs - the
giving of the quest, the completion of the quest, perhaps other text
if it's a daily. Times how many thousands of quests? NPC dialogue. All
those books in random locations.
I myself can pick up a newsletter I released six months ago and spot a
typo immediately, whereas six months ago I somehow missed this typo
even after three separate checks.
I think Blizzard can be forgiven for a few errors.
Also, consider this: people who are hired as proofreaders might not
necessarily have technical background knowledge of the stuff they are
reading; they are just looking for grammar and spelling errors. I edit
financial planning books, but I am not a financial planner. I don't
know that you meant to say registered education savings plan here, not
registered retirement savings plan; I'm just looking for typos.
Whoever proofread the text might not have known a Dreadsteed from a
hole in the ground.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:25 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:43 pm
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On Dec 5, 12:43 pm, neithskye
<jill_bookerGREENEGGSANDS....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 5:15 am, "David Z" <d....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Blizzard's priorities:
> > Make money first
> > Corrections/fixes later (in patches)
>
> Speaking again from a writer/editor point of view, think just for a
> minute how much written material there is in WoW. Quest logs - the
> giving of the quest, the completion of the quest, perhaps other text
> if it's a daily. Times how many thousands of quests? NPC dialogue. All
> those books in random locations.
>
> I myself can pick up a newsletter I released six months ago and spot a
> typo immediately, whereas six months ago I somehow missed this typo
> even after three separate checks.
>
> I think Blizzard can be forgiven for a few errors.
>
> Also, consider this: people who are hired as proofreaders might not
> necessarily have technical background knowledge of the stuff they are
> reading; they are just looking for grammar and spelling errors. I edit
> financial planning books, but I am not a financial planner. I don't
> know that you meant to say registered education savings plan here, not
> registered retirement savings plan; I'm just looking for typos.
>
> Whoever proofread the text might not have known a Dreadsteed from a
> hole in the ground.
>
> --
> Jill
But you would think the person who wrote the text to begin with would
have had some knowledge of the game, and only passed it on to a
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