Blessed Hammers Damage

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:02:44 -0600, "Shiflet" <rshiflet DeleteThis @charter.net>
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>"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret DeleteThis @needtoknow.org> wrote in message
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>> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
>LOL, not even close. My new hammerdin does 13-14k, my old one(with less FCR)
>did 15-16k. Hammerdins are considered one of THE strongest builds in LOD.
>
>

What level are your skills at?

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"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret.RemoveThis@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
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> What level are your skills at?

Blessed Aim and Vigor are maxed(only hard points in these skills boost
damage, so total skill level doesn't matter, just having 20 hard points in
them does), Blessed Hammer is at lvl 43 with gear, Conc is at lvl 37. To
test damage with a somewhat more easily attainable level of +skills, I took
off some +skills stuff, and so at BH 32/Conc 29, my damage is roughly 8k. Of
course, the funny thing is, even 3k hammers can still kill in smaller hell
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:06:34 -0800, noneofyourbusiness
<top.secret.RemoveThis@needtoknow.org> wrote:

>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
>I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>his damage is in the high 8000's
>
>My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.

Remember, the synergy only works for hard points, but the Conc boost
works for the active skill level. IIRC, you should aim to have your
combined hard points in BA and Vig total about 15 more than your
active Conc aura level. It looks like you are a little ahead of
yourself on the Conc, and should put the next half-dozen points into
Vig.

>It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>increasing.

I think you will find that the maxed Vig synergy gets it up into the
right range.

-- Roy L
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"Shiflet" <rshiflet.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in
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> Well, I've gotten lucky with charms, which helps. 6 pally combats on
> him, plus torch and anni, that's +10 combat right there. If I ever
> manage to find or craft the amulet I want(14+ fcr, +2 pally skills)
> I'll get it even higher.
>
>

I almost crafted what you wanted. I crafted a +2 pally +8 FCR and a
bonus of +29 life, +16 mana, +6% mana recharge and +37 LR to boot. Hmmm
maybe it's finally time for me to make a Hammerdin.

(For some reason this post ended up in my outbox. I hope I didn't
accidentally emailed my response to you Shiflet. If so, please accept my
apologies.)
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"Alan Ladd" <onlyaladd68 DeleteThis @SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I almost crafted what you wanted. I crafted a +2 pally +8 FCR and a
> bonus of +29 life, +16 mana, +6% mana recharge and +37 LR to boot. Hmmm
> maybe it's finally time for me to make a Hammerdin.

Wow, still nice ammy regardless.

> (For some reason this post ended up in my outbox. I hope I didn't
> accidentally emailed my response to you Shiflet. If so, please accept my
> apologies.)

Even if I'd get it it would have been fine;-)
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:26:22 GMT, royls.TakeThisOut@telus.net wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:06:34 -0800, noneofyourbusiness
><top.secret.TakeThisOut@needtoknow.org> wrote:
>
>>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>
>>I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>>his damage is in the high 8000's
>>
>>My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>>and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
>
>Remember, the synergy only works for hard points, but the Conc boost
>works for the active skill level. IIRC, you should aim to have your
>combined hard points in BA and Vig total about 15 more than your
>active Conc aura level. It looks like you are a little ahead of
>yourself on the Conc, and should put the next half-dozen points into
>Vig.
>
>>It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>>increasing.
>
>I think you will find that the maxed Vig synergy gets it up into the
>right range.
>
>-- Roy L

Well, my LoD pally now has points equal to or greater than my classic
pally, yet my damage is still only in the high 5000's vs 8000's for
the classic pally.

Could it be I got robbed and some points got "spent" without giving
the actual level increase??

fyi, the stats are as follows:
BH: 27
Conc: 24
BA and Vigor: 24
Damage: mid to high 5000's

My classic hammerdin has 24 across the board and is in the mid to high
8000's for damage.

Maybe it's time to retire this one and start over

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:46:19 -0800, noneofyourbusiness
<top.secret.DeleteThis@needtoknow.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:26:22 GMT, royls.DeleteThis@telus.net wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:06:34 -0800, noneofyourbusiness
>><top.secret.DeleteThis@needtoknow.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>>
>>>I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>>>his damage is in the high 8000's
>>>
>>>My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>>>and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
>>
>>Remember, the synergy only works for hard points, but the Conc boost
>>works for the active skill level. IIRC, you should aim to have your
>>combined hard points in BA and Vig total about 15 more than your
>>active Conc aura level. It looks like you are a little ahead of
>>yourself on the Conc, and should put the next half-dozen points into
>>Vig.
>>
>>>It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>>>increasing.
>>
>>I think you will find that the maxed Vig synergy gets it up into the
>>right range.
>
>Well, my LoD pally now has points equal to or greater than my classic
>pally, yet my damage is still only in the high 5000's vs 8000's for
>the classic pally.
>
>Could it be I got robbed and some points got "spent" without giving
>the actual level increase??
>
>fyi, the stats are as follows:
>BH: 27
>Conc: 24
>BA and Vigor: 24

Presumably this means maxed base.

>Damage: mid to high 5000's
>
>My classic hammerdin has 24 across the board and is in the mid to high
>8000's for damage.

I don't have an explanation for this. You seem to have the skill
points right.

-- Roy L
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On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec... DeleteThis @needtoknow.org>
wrote:
> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
> I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
> his damage is in the high 8000's
>
> My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
> and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
> It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
> increasing.
>
> Anyone know the scoop?
>
> BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
> I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead
>
> ...

My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage

Mickey
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"Mickey" <mickeyb.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage

May I ask what gear you used? Cause from what I understand, max possible
damage on a hammerdin is 18k. And that requires +3 combat skill ammy and
circlet, SoJs/BKs, +2 skills on armor, and HoZ. I'm curious how you hit 125
fcr without a 20 fcr ammy(cant get 3 combat/20 fcr ammy), or Spirit, or
Vipermagi, or FCR rings...only way I've seen anyone get 18k hammers and 125
fcr is by using wizardspike gloves.

Mickey
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:30:30 -0800 (PST), Mickey <mickeyb.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec....DeleteThis@needtoknow.org>
>wrote:
>> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>
>> I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>> his damage is in the high 8000's
>>
>> My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>> and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
>> It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>> increasing.
>>
>> Anyone know the scoop?
>>
>> BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
>> I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead
>>
>> ...
>
>My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage
>
>Mickey

FWIW, I used the damage calc from In.Diablo.de and it confirmed that
5k is the range I should be expecting in LoD for the skill points
allotted, so my LoD hammerdin wasn't short changed. Still, I like the
8k range my Classic D2 hammerdin does with the same amout of allotted
points.

Oh, and, Hi Mickey...glad to see you're doing better.

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"Mickey" <mickeyb DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec... DeleteThis @needtoknow.org>
wrote:
> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
> I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
> his damage is in the high 8000's
>
> My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
> and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
> It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
> increasing.
>
> Anyone know the scoop?
>
> BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
> I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead
>
> ...

My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage

Mickey

Oh, my Lord.

The mouth is still alive. How are you going bin Tovim? Still telling as many
lies as you can in as short a space as possible?



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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ole Irish" typed:
> "Mickey" <mickeyb.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec....TakeThisOut@needtoknow.org>
> wrote:
>> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>
>> I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>> his damage is in the high 8000's
>>
>> My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>> and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
>> It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>> increasing.
>>
>> Anyone know the scoop?
>>
>> BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
>> I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead
>>
>> ...
>
> My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage
>
> Mickey
>
> Oh, my Lord.
>
> The mouth is still alive. How are you going bin Tovim? Still telling
> as many lies as you can in as short a space as possible?

Heh! Mickey, you sure are a moron-magnet. Another entry for the killfile....

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"noneofyourbusiness" <top.secret.RemoveThis@needtoknow.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:30:30 -0800 (PST), Mickey <mickeyb.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec....RemoveThis@needtoknow.org>
>>wrote:
>>> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>>
>>> I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
>>> his damage is in the high 8000's
>>>
>>> My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>>> and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
>>> It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>>> increasing.
>>>
>>> Anyone know the scoop?
>>>
>>> BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
>>> I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>>My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage
>>
>>Mickey
>
> FWIW, I used the damage calc from In.Diablo.de and it confirmed that
> 5k is the range I should be expecting in LoD for the skill points
> allotted, so my LoD hammerdin wasn't short changed. Still, I like the
> 8k range my Classic D2 hammerdin does with the same amout of allotted
> points.
>
> Oh, and, Hi Mickey...glad to see you're doing better.

Thanks

Mickey
>
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