Attention Bill Huffman

In message <87r7toyonx.fsf DeleteThis @athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me DeleteThis @privacy.net>
writes
>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT DeleteThis @nildram.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>> <dbr1300 DeleteThis @jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>

[...]

>Ah, this would be yet another dinosaur appearing, yes? Hi, I see
>you aspire to the same low standards as the rest of these freaks
>

N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
years. What's your excuse ?


>> Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>> without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>> Bret. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>> egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>> haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>> to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.

{Note to brid. My wife sneaked up and looked over my shoulder while I
was writing this and laughed her head off - good work, there's a good
chance I might get forgiven for yesterday now]

>
>That seems perfectly reasonable from where I am sitting, on the
>microplanetoid Kegster[1], in case you were wondering
>
I thought so to.

What's with the [1] and [2] ? Do you like dangling your references ?

An emoticon eh ? 'Lemster' will have yer guts for breakfast

>> You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>> Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>> say "froup" for some unfathomable reason). Nazi Germany blah blah
>> blah...

>
>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]

You have to earn your sergeant's stripes first. N00bie.

>
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/N/newsfroup.html
>
This is just about the way I thought it may have happened. Together with
the inference that if ask the question in the wrong place on usenet you
get called a clueless n00bie. N00bie.

[..]

>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>
>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant
xxx
>
I grab teh money both ways (or I used to). I'm an equal opportunity
worker. So what do you do n00bie ?

I thought 'sluts' were normally female, James. I refer you Br d Metrin
our resident cross gender expert if you're confused.



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"chainbreaker" <noone.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:c804vd0ru6@news3.newsguy.com...
> Bill Huffman wrote:
> > I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
> > following on academic fraud news stories around here. I'll make
> > sure I let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.
> >
> > BTW, did you know about the 11 academic frauds in Georgia that were
> > recently in the news?
>
> Bill, have you always had an interest in academic fraud, or did your
> interest derive from your involvement with, uh . . . you know--*that*
fraud?
>

How simple, many have made accusations, others have wondered aloud but I
think that you're the first to simply ask. It is such a strange and novel
approach that I seem to have little choice but to answer. (After
pontificating first for my own personal amusement.)

I've always had a special facination for frauds in general. I've also always
had the greatest respect for education in general. This kind of came
together when I thought that I might be able to chase the Taco Supreme
Commander off of the newsgroups back in 1997. My respect for education is
rather strange in that I thouroughly enjoyed school and still enjoy
learning. As another example of my wierdness, when I was elementary school
age I read most of the Encyclopedia Britanica Junior just for fun.

A few years ago after telling a little story on my favorite on-line
playground, www.degreeinfo.com , I realized why I was so amused and
facinated by frauds . I think that some may find the story amusing so I'll
post a link here. Of course if I offend any Mormons with my story then
please let me know so that I can hopefully offend you even worse with some
special custom made flames.

http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6993
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
<dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <ldk7a0to7tnh6p0gfcu88u61k6d5jdfvlf.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.TakeThisOut@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:25:37 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <2s67a0plnlugqluvi4vts7uomqvmkuqqpc.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, br d
>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.TakeThisOut@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>>>><dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>[....]
>
>>
>>>which didn't stop me from having a Meldrew
>>>moment yesterday. I got fined 20 pounds for staying too long in a
>>>Waitrose car park while shopping. My subsequent behavior was pretty
>>>appalling. My wife got the fine refunded on the telephone to the manager
>>>afterwards.
>>
>>Ah the joys of car parking. I hope you used the obligatory "Don't you
>>have something useful you could be doing" retort. I think the details
>>behind "My subsequent behaviour was pretty appalling." need to be
>>aired.
>>
>
>I turned my engine off. Folded my arms raised my window and waited.
>
>'Jobs Worth' folded his arms and sat back in his booth and waited.
>
>A long queue of cars formed behind us. At that point my wife became
>embarrassed and started sorting out how much money in change we still
>had to pay the fine. I got out of the car and headed towards the booth.
>I
>demanded he write his name down and find the manager. I didn't swear but
>I did raise my voice to explain that what they were doing was illegal
>and their notice was too small and in the wrong place and anyway and
>they had left the booth unsupervised until two weeks ago and what is
>more they all went home at 5 o'clock anyway. I also suggested that we
>were regular customers who got most of our weekly groceries from his
>store. He started shaking (I can sound quite formidable at times )
><cough> - at which point my wife persuaded me to withdraw having
>summoned up 17 pounds to pay the fine. The bar was lifted and we left. I
>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.

Must try harder.
I personally think you showed admirable restraint.

Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
sure of your geographical location Tom, but if you ever spend any time
in London you'll know what I mean. I work in West London quiet
frequently and the wardens there are little more than highway robbers,
employing such edifying tactics as riding past your vehicle on their
little mopeds, writing out the ticket around the corner and then
riding back and slapping it on quick so you don't get a chance to
explain that you are loading, or lurking about in the morning at 7:59,
ticket ready in hand to be slapped on at 1second past 8:00. They are
supposed to allow a short loading time, but they wait for you to go
into the property and then stick on the ticket and bugger off, how can
you then prove how long you've been there? I hate them, all of them,
they should be shoved into cattle trucks and...ahem...I mean, fine
body of men, vital to the smooth running etc etc etc...

>
>Has anyone else ever been fined in a UK supermarket car park before or
>is this a first ?

Not in a supermarket, but I have in the town. They've fitted one of
those machines in our local car park now that you have to enter your
number plate into so it can be printed on the ticket. I love this one.
You go into the car park, pay the council set rate for an hour, but if
you leave after twenty minutes you're not allowed to give the ticket
to someone else, they have to pay for their hour too. Can you imagine
ringing up your local council and asking them for a rebate on your
council tax because you're taking two weeks holiday?

>
>>>
>>>>Right, that's the niceties out of the way.
>>>
>>>Good.
>>>>
>>>>Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>>>>without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>>>>Bret
>>>
>>>Disgraceful of me. I really deserve to be censored for my own outrageous
>>>conduct.
>>
>>That's better, we're only a third of a way into the post and I have
>>you grovelling already.
>>
>I always grovel in your presence oh mighty one, Oh ruler of the universe
>and everything etc.

Better, a little more obsequiousness wouldn't go amiss though.

>
>>>
>>>>. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>>>>egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>>>>haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>>>>to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>>>>
>>>More or less anything written on usenet is a PKB. Are you suggesting
>>>that there are any regular posters without outrageous egos around here ?
>>
>>Everyone here is painfully shy and self effacing, in a kind of
>>outrageously over the top and self important way. It's easy to become
>>confused.
>>
>>>
>>>I'd love to have a planet named after me. Perhaps if Braben ever gets
>>>round to starting/finishing/publishing E4 we may have that opportunity
>>>by being able to rename the planets..
>>
>>Oh I see. I thought you were lobbying Tom Beckman to actually have a
>>fixed in game Planet named after yourself, now it's just the
>>opportunity to rename one, you're back pedalling Dawkins, what ever
>>happened to that Waitrose car park attitude you were once famous for?
>>
>Is Beckers still around ? Is he still working on it ? If he is, yes
>please. I would like it to be an outdoor planet with loads of potential
>for growth and expansion and that sort of thing.
>
>I still want to beta test his silly game if it ever gets that far.

Tom is here occasionally, perhaps we should start a national campaign
on your behalf?

>
>>>
>>>[Please note the on topic remark]
>>
>>Noted, any more of same and Lemming will send the boys round to beat
>>you senseless with 5 foot high concrete emoticons.
>>
>>>
>>>>You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>>>>Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>>>>say "froup" for some unfathomable reason).
>>>
>>>If anyone can tell me the derivation of the word 'froup', I would be
>>>very curious to know. My best guess so far is there isn't one and that's
>>>the point - but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong.
>>
>>That's why you've been sorely missed.
>>
>Bet you haven't thought about me at all.
>
>>>I win the thread. Godwin's Law invoked..
>>
>>Nonsense, I was invoking the intentional mentional:
>>
>>http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html
>>
>I am not clicking on your link - no I 'm not. So there.
>
>{Huff}
>
>>so it's still Pooh Sticks to me and just plain Poo to you.
>>
>
>Oh no, not another argument about Godwin's law - I refer you to the huge
>back catalogue of such arguments in Google.
>
>Any mention of the nazis, * I mean any mention of the nazis* renders
>*any* further discussion in that thread completely meaningless i.e. you
>lose.
>
>Tee hee.
>
>>>>
>>>>(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>>>IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>>>into the FAQ Lem?)
>>>
>>>Which are you ? To be really part of the in crowd you have to be both.
>>
>
>[Meatballs Metrin evades the question]

I didn't evade it, I just refused to click on it that's all.

>
>>Well, I'm actually a burglar,
>
>PPOSTFU. [I've been meaning to use stfu for ages ]

What's the PPO?

>
>Details of all outstanding jobs please on a postcard or two - to be
>forwarded to your local nick.
>
>(I've often wondered what you did with that delivery van you claimed to
>have some time ago)
>
>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>
>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>manual. Vapourware ?
>
>>>
>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>dubious to me.
>>
>>Quite.
>>
>Indeed.

Exactly

br d
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 22:58:58 +0100, Kegs <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net> wrote:

>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.TakeThisOut@nildram.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>> <dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [Snipping frenzy]
>>
>>>Of course, you mentioning yourself 5 times in a row demonstrates an ego
>>>as yet unmeasured, but thought to be in the range of several parsecs at
>>>least. Jeffyhead.
>
>Ah, this would be yet another dinosaur appearing, yes? Hi, I see
>you aspire to the same low standards as the rest of these freaks
>
>> Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>> without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>> Bret. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>> egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>> haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>> to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>
>That seems perfectly reasonable from where I am sitting, on the
>microplanetoid Kegster[1], in case you were wondering
>
>> You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>> Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>> say "froup" for some unfathomable reason). Nazi Germany blah blah
>> blah...
>
>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]

Sorry Jamesy, there are many here who deserve a mention on the roll
call of (f)group ruiners, but I was actually having a crafty dig at
FLY, who mentioned us four (well, those three, my name must have been
a typo) recently as the people to be avoided and killfiled. I still
haven't forgiven him for it, and I'm pretending I don't read his
(often excellent) posts.

>
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/N/newsfroup.html
>
>HTH, HAND
>
>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>
>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant

br d
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 01:07:19 +0100, asp
<dbr1300.DeleteThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:


>{Note to brid. My wife sneaked up and looked over my shoulder while I
>was writing this and laughed her head off - good work, there's a good
>chance I might get forgiven for yesterday now]

My god, somebody found me amusing? Get her on here, I need the
support.

If it does lead to your de-doghousing you can return the favour, I'll
need you to say you was with me all last Monday night.

br d
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asp <dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> writes:

> In message <87r7toyonx.fsf.TakeThisOut@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net>
> writes
>>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.TakeThisOut@nildram.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>>> <dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>
> [...]
>
>>Ah, this would be yet another dinosaur appearing, yes? Hi, I see
>>you aspire to the same low standards as the rest of these freaks
>>
>
> N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
> here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
> years. What's your excuse ?

My perverse sense of humour, oh and getting trolled/trolling back at louise
in realtime, which can be fun. Louise still does IRC in an Elite related[1]
IRC chan. And I despise deek as well.

> {Note to brid. My wife sneaked up and looked over my shoulder while I
> was writing this and laughed her head off - good work, there's a good
> chance I might get forgiven for yesterday now]
>
>>
>>That seems perfectly reasonable from where I am sitting, on the
>>microplanetoid Kegster[1], in case you were wondering
>>
> I thought so to.
>
> What's with the [1] and [2] ? Do you like dangling your references ?

insufficient caffeine. [1] is "Its a perfectly good name for a wheely chair",
[2] is "everywhere is oop north from where I am sitting"

> An emoticon eh ? 'Lemster' will have yer guts for breakfast

I'm not afraid of that northern wotsit, though he will appreciate
this link: http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/Forum1/HTML/004006.html

>>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]
>
> You have to earn your sergeant's stripes first. N00bie.

can I steal them instead?

>>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>>
>>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant
> xxx
>>
> I grab teh money both ways (or I used to). I'm an equal opportunity
> worker. So what do you do n00bie ?

I am, due to bad karma in a previous life I suspect, a Unix Sysadmin

> I thought 'sluts' were normally female, James. I refer you Br d Metrin
> our resident cross gender expert if you're confused.

Will there be diagrams?

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"Write a wise saying and your name will live forever." Anonymous
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In message <87isezq9pt.fsf.RemoveThis@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
writes
>asp <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> writes:
>
>> In message <87r7toyonx.fsf.RemoveThis@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
>> writes
>>>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.RemoveThis@nildram.co.uk> writes:
>>>

[...]

>>
>> N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
>> here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
>> years. What's your excuse ?
>
>My perverse sense of humour,

I presume you do nob jokes.

> oh and getting trolled/trolling back at louise
>in realtime, which can be fun. Louise still does IRC in an Elite related[1]
>IRC chan. And I despise deek as well.
>

I know where you mean. I popped in there in its early days a couple of
times. I decided that I was not really a fan of on line chat lines. On
one amusing occasion, I found myself in #elite which at that time,
anyway, was full of wannabee models aspiring to join the elite modeling
agency. I ran away as fast of that tail of mine would allow.

'Despise' , I think, is not the word I'd use. 'Lack of respect for' and
'forfeit of trust' would be more appropriate. He could well be quite
likable on a personal level. There was a time after his outing by Bain
when he should have / could have walked away with a certain amount of
both.

[...]

>>
>> What's with the [1] and [2] ? Do you like dangling your references ?
>
>insufficient caffeine. [1] is "Its a perfectly good name for a wheely chair",
>[2] is "everywhere is oop north from where I am sitting"
>
All is now explained.

[..]

>>>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>>>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>>>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]

I want to know about the where this FAQ of his is. I imagine where it is
explained in it. etc, etc, etc.

>>
>> You have to earn your sergeant's stripes first. N00bie.
>
>can I steal them instead?
>
No. Huffman's supply has run out.

>>>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>>>
>>>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>>>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant
>> xxx
>>>
>> I grab teh money both ways (or I used to). I'm an equal opportunity
>> worker. So what do you do n00bie ?
>
>I am, due to bad karma in a previous life I suspect, a Unix Sysadmin
>
You poor soul.

>> I thought 'sluts' were normally female, James. I refer you Br d Metrin
>> our resident cross gender expert if you're confused.
>
>Will there be diagrams?
>
He may bring some back with him after his dirty weekend.

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On 11 May 2004 14:17:51 -0700, pjl <do$feratu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml

Today on TSG: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0514041swan1.html
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"asp" <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
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> In message <87isezq9pt.fsf.RemoveThis@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
> writes
> >asp <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> writes:
> >
> >> In message <87r7toyonx.fsf.RemoveThis@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
> >> writes
> >>>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.RemoveThis@nildram.co.uk> writes:
> >>>
>
> [...]
>
> >>
> >> N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
> >> here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
> >> years. What's your excuse ?
> >
> >My perverse sense of humour,
>
> I presume you do nob jokes.
>
> > oh and getting trolled/trolling back at louise
> >in realtime, which can be fun. Louise still does IRC in an Elite
related[1]
> >IRC chan. And I despise deek as well.
> >
>
> I know where you mean. I popped in there in its early days a couple of
> times. I decided that I was not really a fan of on line chat lines. On
> one amusing occasion, I found myself in #elite which at that time,
> anyway, was full of wannabee models aspiring to join the elite modeling
> agency. I ran away as fast of that tail of mine would allow.
>
> 'Despise' , I think, is not the word I'd use. 'Lack of respect for' and
> 'forfeit of trust' would be more appropriate. He could well be quite
> likable on a personal level. There was a time after his outing by Bain
> when he should have / could have walked away with a certain amount of
> both.

I actually thought that he was going to do it and I'd mentally prepared
myself for the end of the academic fraud portion of the flame war. This was
right before the outing by Bain when he was placing "(unaccredited)" after
his Ph.D. in his sig. Then again when he admitted on-line that it was listed
in the Degree Mill chapter. I thought for sure when he realized that there
was no Diploma Mill chapter that he would stop being a fraud. (At the time
Derek thought that the Degree Mill chapter consisted of higher class
institutions than the Diploma Mill chapter schools.) Or at least he would
name his degree mill so that he could at least continue to claim that he
believed he had a real Ph.D.. But when he continued to claim he had a real
Ph.D. but admitted that he didn't really believe it by refusing to name the
institution I decided that the academic fraud flame war was still on.
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In message <Rbepc.52831$BG1.42927@twister.socal.rr.com>, Bill Hvffman
<bhvffma1@san.rr.com> writes
>
>"asp" <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
>news:y0gHxyFQLQpAFwWv@jkdcomp.demon.co.vk...


[...]

>> 'Despise' , I think, is not the word I'd vse. 'Lack of respect for' and
>> 'forfeit of trvst' wovld be more appropriate. He covld well be qvite
>> likable on a personal level. There was a time after his ovting by Bain
>> when he shovld have / covld have walked away with a certain amovnt of
>> both.
>
>I actvally thovght that he was going to do it and I'd mentally prepared
>myself for the end of the academic fravd portion of the flame war.

The old adage that yov can't win a flame war bvt yov can always lose one
seems appropriate in this context. It was all over in one post as far as
I was concerned. I remember getting vp from my compvter walking into the
kitchen, making a cvp of coffee and saying to myself 'It's over'. Little
did I realize that It wovld take another few years before the embers
wovld die ovt.

> This was
>right before the ovting by Bain when he was placing "(vnaccredited)" after
>his Ph.D. in his sig.

And indeed for a very short while afterwards I think he dropped the
Ph.D. from his sig. completely.

> Then again when he admitted on-line that it was listed
>in the Degree Mill chapter. I thovght for svre when he realized that there
>was no Diploma Mill chapter that he wovld stop being a fravd. (At the time
>Derek thovght that the Degree Mill chapter consisted of higher class
>institvtions than the Diploma Mill chapter schools.) Or at least he wovld
>name his degree mill so that he covld at least continve to claim that he
>believed he had a real Ph.D.. Bvt when he continved to claim he had a real
>Ph.D. bvt admitted that he didn't really believe it by refvsing to name the
>institvtion I decided that the academic fravd flame war was still on.
>
Yes of covrse, yov are qvite correct, and it had to carry on. (and
provided yov with endless hovrs of entertainment) . I hope it will
serve one pvrpose at least - it may prevent some other academic/
professional fravds posting to vsenet and what is mvch worse having
svpporters who believe and are taken in by them...

The one thing I've always given him credit for is commitment to what he
calls his franchise. I spent some time at the Taco Palace this evening
(reviewing the screen shots and reading some linked reviews)
and althovgh the game is not to my taste ( I go for empire bvilding,
exploration, semi realistic space flight, an accvrate representation of
planets, etc) he has eventvally almost finished what he set ovt to 14
years ago - inclvding MP amazingly enovgh..
.
He always had a credibility problem as far as I was concerned both with
his first degree and his Ph.D. This is going to sovnd very strange to
yov.
He didn't have the ambiance of someone who had drvnken endless pints of
beer at the vnion bar - followed by endless circvlar discvssions over
cvps of coffee vntil late into the night in the halls of residence. It
is sort atmosphere that still has its echo in alt.fan.elite or at least
still had vntil recently. There were no stories to back vp the kind
behavior I wovld expect from a stvdent at a red brick vniversity -
remember he claimed have spent his time dvring the early to mid 80's in
the Sovth of England - and that's on my tvrf - althovgh I will admit to
being a lot older than him..
He may, of covrse, have gone to a vniversity in the States which wovld
be ovtside my field of experience.

My view abovt his Ph.D. is qvite simple. I think believed he done enovgh
original work to deserve a Ph.D. so he effectively awarded himself one.
He almost admitted as mvch to me in a post he made a few years ago What
he didn't realize were the steps a real academic has to go throvgh to be
awarded svch an honovr. In particvlar the thovght of a peer review on
yovr feet has always scared me witless....
>
Are yov still playing Civ 3? I've spent so many hovrs playing that
wretched game I've almost worn my movse ovt.

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"asp" <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
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> Are you still playing Civ 3? I've spent so many hours playing that
> wretched game I've almost worn my mouse out.

No, it was a great game but I haven't played it in years. I've been playing
RPGs the last few years with strategic breaks for Age of Wonders and
Galactic Civilizations. Right now it is mostly Sacred, both solo and mp
(when the kids or missus is interested).
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"Dick Garage" <dick RemoveThis @garage.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 11 May 2004 14:17:51 -0700, pjl <do$feratu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml
>
> Today on TSG: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0514041swan1.html

CCU will probably be accredited by DETC within a couple of months. While
DETC is not as good as Regional Accreditation and CCU had to drop their
doctorate programs because DETC can't accredit doctorates, it is still a
real accreditor that's accepted by the Board of Education. In other words,
CCU is one of the very few valid unaccredited schools in existance and they
will soon be accredited.
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In message <Rojpc.23759$EH6.16129@twister.socal.rr.com>, Bill Huffman
<bhuffma1.RemoveThis@san.rr.com> writes
>
>"asp" <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
>news:trbEWdXpuYpAFw13@jkdcomp.demon.co.uk...
>
>> Are you still playing Civ 3? I've spent so many hours playing that
>> wretched game I've almost worn my mouse out.
>
>No, it was a great game but I haven't played it in years. I've been playing
>RPGs the last few years with strategic breaks for Age of Wonders and
>Galactic Civilizations. Right now it is mostly Sacred, both solo and mp
>(when the kids or missus is interested).
>
Civ3 - Conquests, the current expansion pack is worth considering,
especially with it patched to v 1.22. It adds fair number of new
features and fixes some MP issues from older versions, apparently. I
haven't played it in MP mode..

My wife and older daughter are not interested in computers, indeed I am
constantly being told off for spending too much time in my office and
not enough with them. I've had a fair few MP games with my younger
daughter (usually TTDx) who sadly is much more interested in boy friends
than spending any time with little old me these days.

I have a pile of unopened games that I haven't had time for so far so I
have banned myself from buying anything new unless it's put through a
proper evaluation procedure first.

>

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