Attention Bill Huffman

"pjl" <do$feratu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml

Hi PJL,

Both CBS and NBC did academic fraud stories yesterday. I think it is in
anticipation of the GAO report coming out on their academic fraud
investigation. It appears very likely that there's going to be a huge sweep
for academic frauds throughout the whole civil service because the report
only covers GS18 and above and only identifies people that bought bogus
degrees from degree mills, like Derek Smart's alma mater. They didn't
investigate academic frauds that were claiming bogus degrees that weren't
earned but from real schools. There report is supposed to indicate there's a
bunch of damn stinking academic frauds in our federal government.

You also may not be aware that over the last few years 6 states have passed
laws making the use of most unaccredited degrees illegal. There's a number
of other states looking to pass similar laws. What it all means is that
academic frauds are coming under increased pressure. I'm hoping that the
rampant rise in the crime of academic fraud has reached a peak and will now
see a down turn.
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"Bret Ripley" <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net> wrote in message
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> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml
>
> =0
>
> Bill,
>
> How in the heck did you miss this story? Are you slipping, or was your
> silence a clever ploy to trick Pat into posting here again?

I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
following on academic fraud news stories around here. I'll make sure I
let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.

BTW, did you know about the 11 academic frauds in Georgia that were recently
in the news?
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"Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1 DeleteThis @san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Bret Ripley" <ripley DeleteThis @olywa.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml
> >
> > =0
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > How in the heck did you miss this story? Are you slipping, or was your
> > silence a clever ploy to trick Pat into posting here again?
>
> I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
> following on academic fraud news stories around here. I'll make sure
I
> let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.

Hopefully later this week we'll see some articles from the general press.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4079641,00.html

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0504/051104d1.htm

Here's the actual GAO report.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04771t.pdf
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In message <1rwf4d4y8teyf.1j1jb7es4xay9$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net> writes
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:25:15 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:50:41 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> o On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:02:45 -0700,
>>>>>> /|\ Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net> the
>>>>>> ,_, great arsehole of usenet:

[I admit a post edit]

[...]

Fix your attributions Jeffyhead. There is a brod in there somewhere.

[...]

>>>>>> Lemmeau, king of teh monstars.

Could this be ? Surely not .....

[...]

>>>archetypical social angst-thingies. I was simply getting in touch with my
>>>own personal "Jeffy".

Quite.

[...]

> Watched it somewhere between
>Heathrow and Seattle -- I'm afraid I don't remember much about it.

The admission that you get drunk on Airplanes is noted. Perhaps we'll
get lucky and you will be dumped over the pond next time.

Bloody snoring git.

>
>And that's it. I really meant to see "Deconstructing Harry", but never got
>around to it.
>
>> Where do I queue?
>
That explains the presence of Brod.

Hello Everyone.

Nothing changes it seems. A thread about Academic Fraud?


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> From: asp <dbr1300.DeleteThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid>
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> In message <1rwf4d4y8teyf.1j1jb7es4xay9$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
> <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net> writes
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:25:15 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:50:41 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> o On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:02:45 -0700,
>>>>>>> /|\ Bret Ripley <ripley.DeleteThis@olywa.net> the
>>>>>>> ,_, great arsehole of usenet:
>
> [I admit a post edit]

What can I say? I'm flattered, of course.

> [...]
>
> Fix your attributions Jeffyhead. There is a brod in there somewhere.

Oh, crud. You're right, of course. I'm using 40tude dialog, default
settings. "Show all headers" is a bit over-the-top, so I'll keep working
on it. Thanks for being enough of a pedantic twat to point it out.

> [...]
>
>>>>>>> Lemmeau, king of teh monstars.
>
> Could this be ? Surely not .....

Either way, it's giving me nightmares. I guess now we'll have to hide the
sheep *and* the brie.

> [...]
>
>>>>archetypical social angst-thingies. I was simply getting in touch with my
>>>>own personal "Jeffy".
>
> Quite.
>
> [...]
>
>> Watched it somewhere between
>>Heathrow and Seattle -- I'm afraid I don't remember much about it.
>
> The admission that you get drunk on Airplanes is noted.

Even when drunk I don't capitalize random nouns. Of course, you could be
using "Airplanes" as a proper noun. I don't recall ever getting drunk on
anyone named Airplanes, but I'll check my scrapbook.

> Perhaps we'll
> get lucky and you will be dumped over the pond next time.
>
> Bloody snoring git.

That's the first sensible thing you've said so far.

>>And that's it. I really meant to see "Deconstructing Harry", but never got
>>around to it.
>>
>>> Where do I queue?
>>
> That explains the presence of Brod.

You don't need to capitalize br d. He's kind of like Airplanes in that
regard.

> Hello Everyone.

Everyone: see Airplanes.

> Nothing changes it seems. A thread about Academic Fraud?

Academic Fraud: see Charles Abell.

Bret


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On or about 5/12/2004 1:49:55 PM, asp <dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> said:

[snip]

> Fix your attributions Jeffyhead.

There we go: all better.

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On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:38:40 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley.TakeThisOut@olywa.net>
wrote:

> o
>/|\ Bret Ripley teh
>,_, grate arsehole of usenet

I've created a monstar.

Lemming
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On or about 5/12/2004 4:15:06 PM, Lemming
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:38:40 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley RemoveThis @olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> o
>>/|\ Bret Ripley teh
>>,_, grate arsehole of usenet
>
> I've created a monstar.

Daddy?

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Lemming <thiswillbounce DeleteThis @bumblbee.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:38:40 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley DeleteThis @olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> o
>>/|\ Bret Ripley teh
>>,_, grate arsehole of usenet
>
> I've created a monstar.

C'mon, this is, nominally, a space-sim froup, that should be a binstar
at the very least.

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Bill Huffman wrote:
> I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
> following on academic fraud news stories around here. I'll make
> sure I let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.
>
> BTW, did you know about the 11 academic frauds in Georgia that were
> recently in the news?

Bill, have you always had an interest in academic fraud, or did your
interest derive from your involvement with, uh . . . you know--*that* fraud?


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On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
<dbr1300.TakeThisOut@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:


[Snipping frenzy]

>Of course, you mentioning yourself 5 times in a row demonstrates an ego
>as yet unmeasured, but thought to be in the range of several parsecs at
>least. Jeffyhead.

Hello Tom! Good to see you here again, hope everything is fine and
dandy with you.

Right, that's the niceties out of the way.

Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
Bret. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.

You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
say "froup" for some unfathomable reason). Nazi Germany blah blah
blah...

br d

(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
into the FAQ Lem?)
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In message <1pzbeqanphkw8.1dwywgczpjem1$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley.RemoveThis@olywa.net> writes
>On or about 5/12/2004 5:40:11 PM, asp <dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> said:
>> In message <1oi8ki9szw8k8$.fd3svu91yy58$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
>> <ripley.RemoveThis@olywa.net> writes
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Accountants are known to be pedantic twats, it's part of their nature.
>>>
>>>I, too, am an accountant (some of the time, anyway). And I am most
>>>definitely a pedantic twat. So there you go being right again.
>>>
>>
>> Profession or trade ?
>
>Trade, if I understand the term correctly.

Yes, you're correct. Working in the profession means working for a firm
of Chartered Accountants - nothing to particularly proud of these days
after Enron et all.

> Or maybe Profession, otherwise.
>Anyway, I'm not anything like a Chartered Accountant, if that helps clarify
>things. I am also a customs broker, farmer, and freight forwarder. I'm
>not very good at any one of them, so I spread myself around a bit just to
>look busy.
>
Cor blimey, how do you find the time to post to / read Usenet ?

I think my admission to being a F.C.A is going to get me ribbed around
here something wicked, if I'm not careful.

[...]

>>>
>> I confess. I am both an Airplane and a Starship fanatic.
>
>I didn't know it was possible to be both.
>
>http://snipurl.com/6d9a
>

I probably never recovered from John Cleese's Chartered Accountants
sketch.

'We built this city' was a particularly awful example of their later
stuff. It featured in a similar chart over here. I think at no 81 but I
am not sure.

I did say 'Jefferson' at one point. The earlier albums are worth
checking out. Red Octopus and Dragon Fly in particular. Miracles ( for
romantic reasons) is my favorite tune of all time.

[...]

>>>Tom? Tom Dawkins? Nice to have you back, Tom.
>>>
>> Thank you. I expected the place to be full of threads about Iraq. I
>> guess all that is going to be *said* has been.
>
>Yeah, that about sums it up. It doesn't take long for such threads to
>devolve into meaningless monologues. OTHOH, if watching pretentious,
>simple-minded goons talk past each other is your cup of tea, you may wish
>to check out c.s.i.p.g.flight-sim.
>
I think I'll give that a miss, thanks.

>> I haven't looked in
>> google.
>>
>>>Now, please feel free to piss off any time you like, won't you? Such a
>>>clever lad.
>>
>> Heads towards the exit with his tail between his legs.
>
>Oh, now don't be like that, Tom. Pull up a chair and tell us all about
>this tail of yours.
>
Don't we all have tails ? There is nothing unusual about mine.

*Snort*

>> [I'd try some ASCII art except I'm no good at it.]
>
>That doesn't stop Batters.
>
I think I've come across him in alt.usenet.kooks recently.
Are you suggesting that is a more appropriate place for him ?

If Louis was around he'd be crossposting him to demon.local.

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In message <2s67a0plnlugqluvi4vts7uomqvmkuqqpc.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, br d
<misterbCOCKNEYTWAT.RemoveThis@nildram.co.uk> writes
>On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
><dbr1300.RemoveThis@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>[Snipping frenzy]
>
>>Of course, you mentioning yourself 5 times in a row demonstrates an ego
>>as yet unmeasured, but thought to be in the range of several parsecs at
>>least. Jeffyhead.
>
>Hello Tom! Good to see you here again, hope everything is fine and
>dandy with you.
>
Hello Metrin! Glad to see you are still around and sounding very
chirpy. I'm much improved, which didn't stop me from having a Meldrew
moment yesterday. I got fined 20 pounds for staying too long in a
Waitrose car park while shopping. My subsequent behavior was pretty
appalling. My wife got the fine refunded on the telephone to the manager
afterwards.

>Right, that's the niceties out of the way.

Good.
>
>Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>Bret

Disgraceful of me. I really deserve to be censored for my own outrageous
conduct.

>. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>
More or less anything written on usenet is a PKB. Are you suggesting
that there are any regular posters without outrageous egos around here ?

I'd love to have a planet named after me. Perhaps if Braben ever gets
round to starting/finishing/publishing E4 we may have that opportunity
by being able to rename the planets..

[Please note the on topic remark]

>You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>say "froup" for some unfathomable reason).

If anyone can tell me the derivation of the word 'froup', I would be
very curious to know. My best guess so far is there isn't one and that's
the point - but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong.

I notice Huffman talking about flies. Perhaps it would be more
appropriate to talk about his pet flees. I am sure he should have one
named after a certain fellow whose name I just can't remember. Perhaps
someone will remind me....

> Nazi Germany blah blah

I win the thread. Godwin's Law invoked..
>
>(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>into the FAQ Lem?)

Which are you ? To be really part of the in crowd you have to be both.

Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
dubious to me.


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