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boB

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:35 pm
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I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower
the gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full
power to taxi off the runway.


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:16 pm
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Hi boB

I've done that a few times in some of my Carenado Cessna's with
retractable landing gear.

At least I know I'm not gonna die so wouldn't check like I would IRL.
This guy has obviously never heard of a 'Landing Checklist'

Ibby

On Feb 3, 2:35 am, boB <copter.sixREMOVEC....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower
> the gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full
> power to taxi off the runway.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:32 pm
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boB wrote:
> He didn't realize it until he had to use full
> power to taxi off the runway.

I would think the grinding, crunching, smashing sounds might give away
your faux pas, long before having to taxi! Very Happy

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:57 am
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boB writes:

> I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower
> the gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full
> power to taxi off the runway.

What kind of aircraft does he have with so much power that it can move
the aircraft even when it's on its belly on concrete? He must have
rockets on the wings.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:39 am
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"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> boB writes:
>
>> I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower
>> the gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full
>> power to taxi off the runway.
>
> What kind of aircraft does he have with so much power that it can move
> the aircraft even when it's on its belly on concrete? He must have
> rockets on the wings.
>


It was just a little joke MX. Smile

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:21 am
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On 2 Feb 2007 19:16:37 -0800, "Ibby (The Artist Formerly Known as
Chris)" <cjibbotson.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi boB
>
>I've done that a few times in some of my Carenado Cessna's with
>retractable landing gear.
>
>At least I know I'm not gonna die so wouldn't check like I would IRL.
>This guy has obviously never heard of a 'Landing Checklist'

There are a whole series of warnings, but a pilot can be distracted.
First the thing doesn't want to slow down in the pattern. Your power
settings are way to low compared to normal, you may have problems
slowing enough to get the flaps down, and finally that sucker will
float, and float, and float (when it never did before). That is all
BEFORE the crunching and grinding starts.

We had a plane land on 24. The pilot said the gear collapsed. Said
gear used a push rod to extend the gear. Push rod was bent in the
middle, probably from trying to jack said airplane back up after it
was too late.

I walked off the distance. Starting at roughly the touch down zone
the prop left a series of "chaw marks" in the runway. Then nothing
for about 50 yards. Then there were a whole series of chaw marks
really close together. Then the chaw marks were a long way apart
before stopping. There were over half a mile of scrape marks before
the plane slid off the runway and came to a stop. Actually it barely
made it off the runway before stopping. The prop tips were bent back
indicating the engine was not producing power at the initial contact.
The nose gear wheel well door had scrape marks and the paint was
*burnt* off. The nose gear tire had the rubber melted on one side
meaning it was pushing against the door.

BTW this was the first trip that plane had made since it's annual the
day before. They were from an airport about 50 miles south of here.

I'll bet that annual was a lot cheaper than getting the plane back in
the air. Prop damage means a complete engine tear down. New exhaust
stacks, gear doors, paint job, and prop. The prop blades are about
$2,700 each with the hub running about the same. Then there is labor.

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>Ibby
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>On Feb 3, 2:35 am, boB <copter.sixREMOVEC....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower
>> the gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full
>> power to taxi off the runway.
>>
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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:56 am
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"boB" <copter.sixREMOVECAPS.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower the
>gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full power to
>taxi off the runway.

You've been reading your bumper book of aviation jokes and sayings again! I
first heard that one (admittedly in a slightly modified form) over thirty
years ago. Then it read: You know you've landed with the gear up when it
takes full power to taxi to the ramp. Also regularly doing the rounds are:
The only time an aircraft has too much fuel on board is when it's on fire.
If the copilot is sweating the cockpit heating needs adjusting, if the
captain is sweating prepare for drama. And finally... A helicopter does not
fly, it is pumped into the air by the pilot by movement of the control
levers and pedals in the cockpit - the pilot must never stop moving these
control levers and pedals, if he does so the helicopter will immediately
crash.

Steve
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:09 am
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I remember that joke. A little differently Smile
MM

"boB" <copter.sixREMOVECAPS DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower the
>gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full power to
>taxi off the runway.
>
>
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>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:54 pm
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Mad Mike wrote:
> I remember that joke. A little differently Smile
> MM
>
> "boB" <copter.sixREMOVECAPS.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45c3d677$0$28156$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I just caught the end of a FOX report about a guy forgetting to lower the
>> gear when landing. He didn't realize it until he had to use full power to
>> taxi off the runway.


Smile Yea, the full power part was a joke, the aircraft landing gear up
was true. Smile And I couldn't tell the joke like we remember it way
back when.....

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