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Since: Nov 23, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:55 pm
Post subject: Basic miltary tactics?
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I've played a few games, Panzer General, Age of Empires, etc. I get some
basic concepts, like getting your different resources to cooperate (air,
artillery, and infantry), or putting troops in the right order (archers in
back, spearmen up front fending off the cavalry). I was playing the Rome
Total War demo last night and I realized I don't know basic military
tactics. I need an online resource that gives a good overview of the
fundamentals that can be applied to all combat. Like "Military Tactics for
Dummies". How and when and why to flank, how and when to retreat, and to
where, how to cause deception, etc. etc. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Basic miltary tactics? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"jeffc" <jeffc226 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Ovbyf.14291$Kp.13116@southeast.rr.com:
> I was playing the Rome Total War demo last night and I
> realized I don't know basic military tactics.
The trouble with RTW is that there's a difference between historically
accurate military tactics and the best tactics to win in this particular
game. The current issue of the PC Gamer (UK) magazine has a complete
article on "how to win battles in RTW" - just by accident I'm also just
reading a book on the actual tactics used by Roman armies. Well, to be
gentle : RTW winning tactics would have been rubbish IRL. So the trouble
is that even if you read the best book there is on military tactics and
then try to apply them to a game that doesn't allow these sound tactics
to work correctly you're back to square one.
Greetz,
Eddy Sterckx
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Basic miltary tactics? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 14 Jan 2006 22:53:02 GMT, Eddy Sterckx <eddysterckx.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
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>"jeffc" <jeffc226.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:Ovbyf.14291$Kp.13116@southeast.rr.com:
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>> I was playing the Rome Total War demo last night and I
>> realized I don't know basic military tactics.
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>The trouble with RTW is that there's a difference between historically
>accurate military tactics and the best tactics to win in this particular
>game. The current issue of the PC Gamer (UK) magazine has a complete
>article on "how to win battles in RTW" - just by accident I'm also just
>reading a book on the actual tactics used by Roman armies. Well, to be
>gentle : RTW winning tactics would have been rubbish IRL. So the trouble
>is that even if you read the best book there is on military tactics and
>then try to apply them to a game that doesn't allow these sound tactics
>to work correctly you're back to square one.
Rome: Total Realism mod does a solid job on making the RTW game
more realistic, more believable (for us grog types - public at large
has no problems believing anything) and more true to real-world period
tactics.
This mod is *still* not nearly enough to make me love RTW, but
it's a huge step towards making the game better in most aspects. I
suggest everyone still playing RTW to download and apply Rome: Total
Realism mod (it's free).
Oleg >> Stay informed about: Basic miltary tactics? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Basic miltary tactics? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"jeffc" <jeffc226.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I've played a few games, Panzer General, Age of Empires, etc. I get some
> basic concepts, like getting your different resources to cooperate (air,
> artillery, and infantry), or putting troops in the right order (archers in
> back, spearmen up front fending off the cavalry). I was playing the Rome
> Total War demo last night and I realized I don't know basic military
> tactics. I need an online resource that gives a good overview of the
> fundamentals that can be applied to all combat. Like "Military Tactics
> for Dummies". How and when and why to flank, how and when to retreat, and
> to where, how to cause deception, etc. etc.
Well, there is one that's been around for a bit over two thousand years
called "Art of War" by some Chinese named Sun Tzu. But I suspect that much
of what you'd learn from it couldn't be easily used in a computer game. 
Also, what kind of tactics and strategies to apply depend on the scale and
time period of the game. The logistical basics of building a mid-20th
century Southern Pacific airbase may not be entirely applicable to helping
you obtain forage for your elephants as you march with Hannibal over the
Alps.
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"I reject your reality and substitute my own."
"Now, quack, damn you!"
Multiversal Mercenaries
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:55 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:55 am
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Eddy Sterckx <eddysterckx.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> writes:
> ... - just by accident I'm also just
> reading a book on the actual tactics used by Roman armies...
For curiosity: which book?
Jukka >> Stay informed about: Basic miltary tactics? |
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