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Since: Aug 03, 2005 Posts: 1861
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:55 am
Post subject: Can Barons back up? Archived from groups: rec>aviation>piloting, others (more info?)
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I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
reverse thrust?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:55 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> reverse thrust?
>
> --
> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
If you shift it into "R" it will back up! >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:43 pm
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deanwil DeleteThis @msn.com wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
>> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
>> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
>> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
>> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
>> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
>> reverse thrust?
>>
>> --
>> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
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> If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:25 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:43 pm
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"Emily" <rachelp2037delete RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> deanwil RemoveThis @msn.com wrote:
> > Mxsmanic wrote:
> >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
> >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> >> reverse thrust?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
> >
> > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
> >
> Yep! You can even do that in the air!
Which is dangerous without a rear view miror and rear window. >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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Since: Oct 15, 2006 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:54 pm
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Flight Safety's Lear simulator, when they first installed it
back in the late 70-early 80s would stop in flight if the
gear was down and the pilot applied the wheel brakes. You
even got the chirp of the tires.
"Emily" <rachelp2037delete RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:BeCdnXoU1PvY7q_YnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
| deanwil RemoveThis @msn.com wrote:
| > Mxsmanic wrote:
| >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch
adjustment
| >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean
reverse thrust,
| >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with
the engines
| >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a
few seconds
| >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a
Baron? Is this
| >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or
does it even mean
| >> reverse thrust?
| >>
| >> --
| >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
| >
| > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
| >
| Yep! You can even do that in the air! >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:55 pm
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"Peter Dohm" <lefty133.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Emily" <rachelp2037delete.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BeCdnXoU1PvY7q_YnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > deanwil.TakeThisOut@msn.com wrote:
> > > Mxsmanic wrote:
> > >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> > >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse
thrust,
> > >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> > >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> > >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> > >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> > >> reverse thrust?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
> > >
> > > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
> > >
> > Yep! You can even do that in the air!
> Which is dangerous without a rear view miror and rear window.
>
>
I thought you just told the sim to increase winds on the nose to 200 kts.
Then press "." as necessary to work the brakes. That's how we back up in
real life, right? <ugh> >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:52 pm
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karl gruber wrote:
> Actually,
>
> THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
> a light twin that I'm aware of.
>
Rocket Engineering in Spokane is doing PT6A conversions to Dukes and
P-Barons - you can back those up on the ramp if you were so inclined. >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:55 pm
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Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.
It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar than using a power tug,
like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other hand, taxiing out is simply
a matter of raising the hangar door and starting both engines, and then
using the hangar door remote control to close the door after leaving. It
saves a lot of time. >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:55 pm
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Actually,
THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
a light twin that I'm aware of.
Karl
"Viperdoc" <jninomi RemoveThis @NOattglobalSPAMM.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
> reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
> however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.
>
> It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar than using a power
> tug, like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other hand, taxiing out is
> simply a matter of raising the hangar door and starting both engines, and
> then using the hangar door remote control to close the door after leaving.
> It saves a lot of time.
>
>
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> >> Stay informed about: Can Barons back up? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:55 pm
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I think there have been several reversing prop STC, usually
on seaplanes, such as the BE 18 and even the Aztec.
"karl gruber" <removeskywagon.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Actually,
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| THere IS an STC for reversing props on a
Baron...............the only one on
| a light twin that I'm aware of.
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| Karl
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| "Viperdoc" <jninomi.DeleteThis@NOattglobalSPAMM.net> wrote in message
| news:5DwYg.20120$cc3.7360@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| > Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and
fly) by shifting into
| > reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward
visibility is limited,
| > however, and I usually roll the windows down to look
out.
| >
| > It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar
than using a power
| > tug, like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other
hand, taxiing out is
| > simply a matter of raising the hangar door and starting
both engines, and
| > then using the hangar door remote control to close the
door after leaving.
| > It saves a lot of time.
| >
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Since: Aug 03, 2005 Posts: 1861
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:55 pm
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"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> writes:
> Flight Safety's Lear simulator, when they first installed it
> back in the late 70-early 80s would stop in flight if the
> gear was down and the pilot applied the wheel brakes. You
> even got the chirp of the tires.
I hope students were told that this occurred only in simulation.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:55 pm
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Viperdoc writes:
> Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
> reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
> however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.
I don't see a switch marked R.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:55 pm
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karl gruber writes:
> THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
> a light twin that I'm aware of.
What does STC stand for?
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