BF2 engy TKs

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Engies in BF2/2142 are probably one of the most hosed classes. It's
dang near impossible to get repair points, and you're one of the few
classes that can get TK punished at a distance.

Not your fault teammates get right on top of enemy vehicles, or stand
next to your mines, but if/when someone sets them off, and the explosion
kills them, it's a TK.

There's a reason I never got any of the higher level engie badges /
awards. It's to d**n hard to get the requisite number of repair points
in a round....


De Moni wrote:
> Ben Hopkins wrote:
>> I finally figured out how I as an engineer, blowing up an enemy
>> vehicle, could get dinged for a TK -- if the enemy rolls over the AT
>> mine while a friendly is standing nearby, and that friendly is killed,
>> it counts to the engineer. Then the jerk punishes for it!
>
> Sometimes "FF off" gets a glitch and friendly tanks explode when they
> drive over my mines. This is quite rare, though.

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Jason A wrote:
> Welcome to the great screwed over class....
>
> Engies in BF2/2142 are probably one of the most hosed classes. It's
> dang near impossible to get repair points, and you're one of the few
> classes that can get TK punished at a distance.
>
> Not your fault teammates get right on top of enemy vehicles, or stand
> next to your mines, but if/when someone sets them off, and the explosion
> kills them, it's a TK.

I just got another one -- I jumped out of a vehicle just before it
rolled over a friendly mine, the mine exploded and killed me. It was my
mine, so I killed myself, but if it would have been someone else, I'd
get a TK for that and probably a punish.
 >> Stay informed about: BF2 engy TKs 

I really don't think it's all that bad, just use mines in your base when
you are shure the server is set for mines only killing the enemy to start
with, not shure?=ask. Also repair everything in the base before leaving it.
Even if it dosen't show damage you can get a point or 2 that way. Besides
helping out your buddies so they don't get in a damaged tank while you are
standing there scratching your ass. follow a vechicle [tank,apc,ect] with a
go cart or hummer and stay behind and repair as you go. He protects you, you
repair him. You know- Teamwork. BTW you can also get points at a distance
besides tking at a distance. MHO Sprink.


"Ben Hopkins" <nospam.hopkins.ben.RemoveThis@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jason A wrote:
>> Welcome to the great screwed over class....
>>
>> Engies in BF2/2142 are probably one of the most hosed classes. It's dang
>> near impossible to get repair points, and you're one of the few classes
>> that can get TK punished at a distance.
>>
>> Not your fault teammates get right on top of enemy vehicles, or stand
>> next to your mines, but if/when someone sets them off, and the explosion
>> kills them, it's a TK.
>
> I just got another one -- I jumped out of a vehicle just before it rolled
> over a friendly mine, the mine exploded and killed me. It was my mine, so
> I killed myself, but if it would have been someone else, I'd get a TK for
> that and probably a punish.
 >> Stay informed about: BF2 engy TKs 

Nope, doesn't work that way.

The problem for Engies, is that if an enemy vehicle rolls over one of
your mines, and blows up, and the explosions kills a friendly, it counts
as a TK.

I believe, at this point, in both BF2 and BF2142, mines have an IFF
system, and will not blow up when a friendly vehicle drives over them, ever.

As for getting the repair points, it takes a lot of time to get one
repair point. Which is why you see so many medic / support players.
It's far, far easier to get points for running around with the med bag
out, or a supply kit, then to keep a tank repaired. Problem one, it's
way harder to stay close to the tank, within the repair radius, without
blocking the tank, making it easier for the target to kill the very tank
you are repairing.

I've managed to repair *destroyed* (not damaged) cmdr assets to around
3/4 health, and gotten *no* repair points. I've finally gotten the
point (1 lousy point!) when it (finally) reaches full health. At which
point, I've just spent 3-4 minutes standing around with a wrench out,
singing "16 tons" and holding down my mouse button....


Tom Allemani wrote:
> I really don't think it's all that bad, just use mines in your base when
> you are shure the server is set for mines only killing the enemy to start
> with, not shure?=ask. Also repair everything in the base before leaving it.
> Even if it dosen't show damage you can get a point or 2 that way. Besides
> helping out your buddies so they don't get in a damaged tank while you are
> standing there scratching your ass. follow a vechicle [tank,apc,ect] with a
> go cart or hummer and stay behind and repair as you go. He protects you, you
> repair him. You know- Teamwork. BTW you can also get points at a distance
> besides tking at a distance. MHO Sprink.
>
>
> "Ben Hopkins" <nospam.hopkins.ben RemoveThis @nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Jason A wrote:
>>> Welcome to the great screwed over class....
>>>
>>> Engies in BF2/2142 are probably one of the most hosed classes. It's dang
>>> near impossible to get repair points, and you're one of the few classes
>>> that can get TK punished at a distance.
>>>
>>> Not your fault teammates get right on top of enemy vehicles, or stand
>>> next to your mines, but if/when someone sets them off, and the explosion
>>> kills them, it's a TK.
>> I just got another one -- I jumped out of a vehicle just before it rolled
>> over a friendly mine, the mine exploded and killed me. It was my mine, so
>> I killed myself, but if it would have been someone else, I'd get a TK for
>> that and probably a punish.
>
>

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Well if you say so. But I have been on a server that a friendly tank was
blown up by a mine. I can't remember if there was an enemy close by or not.
It may be that an enemy was on it or something like that. but I got a tk
from it. This happened more than once. Can't belive an enemy got in one at
the beginning of a round but suppose it could happen. So I asked if mines
destroy friendly vechicles the answer was yes from MY team.Why would they
lie? Just being **ickheads mabey. Ok fine I quit using mines that time.
Next time I will pay more attention to the circumstances. Points- I have
gotten a lot of points from repair by fixing AA and trailers ect. And an
award also. And points for rolling repair. I stay near tanks but not
directly in back of them in another vehicle be it another tank or whatever.
It's hard but not impossible.
As for cmdr assets I pull up in any vehicle for instant repair then ,if all
is quiet, I get out and repair on foot using the vehicle as a shield. 3 or 4
minutes may be an overstatement in MHO. Next time I'll time it :] Anyhoo I
put down mines in a nice quiet unthreatened base then fix any thing there
and leave for more repair. Isn't that what repair is all about? If I want
to assault I switch to assault and go for the bases being attacked. Never
cared for the easy points like tossing med bags, healing is not my bag ;]
What I get a laugh from is the players on the carrier shooting friendlys
then healing -shooting-healing over and over building up their ego's
[points] like they were good players or something. But to each his/her own.
Repair points are gotten from time spent repairing, so a little time here a
little time there and walla -you got a point. But that is not the point-
pardon the pun- the idea is to help out your team so they win even if you
don't get all the credit. Some do not share that idea but they just don't
get it IMHO.
Well thats it for now thanks for the reply, Sprink

"Jason A" <jash7165.DeleteThis@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message
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> Nope, doesn't work that way.
>
> The problem for Engies, is that if an enemy vehicle rolls over one of your
> mines, and blows up, and the explosions kills a friendly, it counts as a
> TK.
>
> I believe, at this point, in both BF2 and BF2142, mines have an IFF
> system, and will not blow up when a friendly vehicle drives over them,
> ever.
>
> As for getting the repair points, it takes a lot of time to get one repair
> point. Which is why you see so many medic / support players. It's far,
> far easier to get points for running around with the med bag out, or a
> supply kit, then to keep a tank repaired. Problem one, it's way harder to
> stay close to the tank, within the repair radius, without blocking the
> tank, making it easier for the target to kill the very tank you are
> repairing.
>
> I've managed to repair *destroyed* (not damaged) cmdr assets to around 3/4
> health, and gotten *no* repair points. I've finally gotten the point (1
> lousy point!) when it (finally) reaches full health. At which point, I've
> just spent 3-4 minutes standing around with a wrench out, singing "16
> tons" and holding down my mouse button....
>
>
> Tom Allemani wrote:
>> I really don't think it's all that bad, just use mines in your base when
>> you are shure the server is set for mines only killing the enemy to start
>> with, not shure?=ask. Also repair everything in the base before leaving
>> it. Even if it dosen't show damage you can get a point or 2 that way.
>> Besides helping out your buddies so they don't get in a damaged tank
>> while you are standing there scratching your ass. follow a vechicle
>> [tank,apc,ect] with a go cart or hummer and stay behind and repair as you
>> go. He protects you, you repair him. You know- Teamwork. BTW you can
>> also get points at a distance besides tking at a distance. MHO
>> Sprink.
>>
>>
>> "Ben Hopkins" <nospam.hopkins.ben.DeleteThis@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bfqhh.496$yx6.468@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> Jason A wrote:
>>>> Welcome to the great screwed over class....
>>>>
>>>> Engies in BF2/2142 are probably one of the most hosed classes. It's
>>>> dang near impossible to get repair points, and you're one of the few
>>>> classes that can get TK punished at a distance.
>>>>
>>>> Not your fault teammates get right on top of enemy vehicles, or stand
>>>> next to your mines, but if/when someone sets them off, and the
>>>> explosion kills them, it's a TK.
>>> I just got another one -- I jumped out of a vehicle just before it
>>> rolled over a friendly mine, the mine exploded and killed me. It was my
>>> mine, so I killed myself, but if it would have been someone else, I'd
>>> get a TK for that and probably a punish.
>>
>>
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