Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:53:17 +0000, Mark Morrison <blank DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:18:53 -0500, Lisa Jacobbi
><ljacobbi245 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In article
>><966d3527-a174-4c1e-b01d-a2de28238675 DeleteThis @u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> ronald.phillips DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> "DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive"
>>>
>>> We've had DVD-ROM's for PC's since '99. If you don't have one then
>>> your living under a rock.
>>
>>Am I the only one who doesn't have a dual-layer DVD burner? I went to
>>NewEgg and I couldn't find one to BUY... Or will my few years old DVD
>>burner (Lite-On 20x) still be able to read the dual-layer disc? Don't
>>they have twice the data (8gb vs. 4gb) on them?
>>
>>-Lisa
>
>Hell, I'm still using my 4x DVD writer from about 4-5 years ago (I
>think)
>
>It still works, so I've never had to get anything faster. Speed isn't
>a factor for me when writing DVDs, and since 100+ gb hard drives
>became affordable, I find myself burning less and less to DVD as
>backups. In fact, it's been over a year since I burned anything to
>DVD as a backup - I just have 2 copies of all my important files, on
>on my main hard drive, adn one on and external USB drive.

I have a bit more paranoid method. I have dual sets of internal drives
and manually mirror my files to the second drive daily. When I accumulate
more than 4.35 GB of new files, I archive those on DVD (twice - once for
local storage and once for offsite storage). I also use a nice Windows
Home Server to do automatic daily backups.

Not yet to the "print out all data on gold punch cards" stage but getting
there.

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 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

In article <bs5hp3hrffu67t1hkf346h2t5r311uoik9.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
Mark Morrison <blank.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:18:53 -0500, Lisa Jacobbi
> <ljacobbi245.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><966d3527-a174-4c1e-b01d-a2de28238675.TakeThisOut@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > ronald.phillips.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> "DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive"
> >>
> >> We've had DVD-ROM's for PC's since '99. If you don't have one then
> >> your living under a rock.
> >
> >Am I the only one who doesn't have a dual-layer DVD burner? I went to
> >NewEgg and I couldn't find one to BUY... Or will my few years old DVD
> >burner (Lite-On 20x) still be able to read the dual-layer disc? Don't
> >they have twice the data (8gb vs. 4gb) on them?
> >
> >-Lisa
>
> Hell, I'm still using my 4x DVD writer from about 4-5 years ago (I
> think)
>
> It still works, so I've never had to get anything faster. Speed isn't
> a factor for me when writing DVDs, and since 100+ gb hard drives
> became affordable, I find myself burning less and less to DVD as
> backups. In fact, it's been over a year since I burned anything to
> DVD as a backup - I just have 2 copies of all my important files, on
> on my main hard drive, adn one on and external USB drive.

To the point - are you saying our non-dual-layer DVD drives will be
fine, and that the Assassin's Creed stated requirement of "DVD-ROM:
DVD-ROM dual-layer drive" is in fact in error?
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

Lisa Jacobbi wrote:

> To the point - are you saying our non-dual-layer DVD drives will be
> fine, and that the Assassin's Creed stated requirement of "DVD-ROM:
> DVD-ROM dual-layer drive" is in fact in error?

It's storage requirement. Very early DVD players were single layer (I
think) some of the early DVD release films needed you to turn the disc over.
However by the time the technology migrated to DVD-ROM drives for computer
I'd have though that all drives were capable of reading duel layer discs.
Writing duel layer is another matter and will have no effect on the system
requirement of the game.
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Tim O wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:38:58 +0100, Werner Spahl
> <spahl DeleteThis @cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand, moving to higher res textures, and using more of
>>> them, is a very easy way for an install to increase by a few GBs.
>> But is this really necessary and justified? AFAIK Assassin's Creed is a
>> third person game, so close up textures are not really needed. What I have
>> seen of it, the environments are limited as well, with no jungle or ice to
>> expect around the corner. So why should it need more texture memory than
>> all the HL2 games together, which have great textures in the first place?
>> Maybe it's like IIRC DMMM in that it contains GB of ingame but prerendered
>> movies, which could have been easily done completely as a game cutscene?
>
> Also, how does this work out on the consoles, which only have 20 to 80
> gig hard drives? Are they just loading more stuff right off the DVD,
> and caching and deleting levels from the HD as you play?

Yep, for the most part.
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 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

"Bob Loblaw" wrote...
> Are they trying to compete with Crysis? The minimum requirements for the
> forthcoming PC version of Assassin's Creed seem ridiculously high:
> In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these
> minimum requirements:

Seems that they are deliberatly trying to exclude the vast majority of
casual gamers who cant be arsed throwing money at thier PCs every couple of
months to play the latest mediocre console port with purty pictures

I wish the developers a rapid bankruptcy
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

rob wrote:
> "Bob Loblaw" wrote...
>> Are they trying to compete with Crysis? The minimum requirements for
>> the forthcoming PC version of Assassin's Creed seem ridiculously
>> high: In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed
>> these minimum requirements:
>
> Seems that they are deliberatly trying to exclude the vast majority of
> casual gamers who cant be arsed throwing money at thier PCs every
> couple of months to play the latest mediocre console port with purty
> pictures

I'm pretty sure that it's joint development, the PC version just has a
longer development time. This is understandable the PC has an incredibly
large array of hardware combinations so the development is goign to be more
complex. AS for the system requirements. It's a modern game and needs a
reasonably modern PC to play it on. This isn't a new phenomenon.
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

On Jan 24, 7:28 pm, "Bob Loblaw" <B... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure that it's joint development, the PC version just has a
> > longer development time.  This is understandable the PC has an incredibly
> > large array of hardware combinations so the development is goign to be
> > more complex.  AS for the system requirements. It's a modern game and
> > needs a reasonably modern  PC to play it on.  This isn't a new phenomenon.
>
> But the thing i don't get is why can it run on a Xbox 360 that has 512 Mb of
> RAM and require 3 Gigs on a PC?

1-1.5GB for Vista.
1-1.5GB for the game with higher quality textures?
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

> I'm pretty sure that it's joint development, the PC version just has a
> longer development time. This is understandable the PC has an incredibly
> large array of hardware combinations so the development is goign to be
> more complex. AS for the system requirements. It's a modern game and
> needs a reasonably modern PC to play it on. This isn't a new phenomenon.

But the thing i don't get is why can it run on a Xbox 360 that has 512 Mb of
RAM and require 3 Gigs on a PC?
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:12:42 +1300, "rob" <roball RemoveThis @xtranope.co.nz>
wrote:

>
>"Bob Loblaw" wrote...
>> Are they trying to compete with Crysis? The minimum requirements for the
>> forthcoming PC version of Assassin's Creed seem ridiculously high:
>> In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these
>> minimum requirements:
>
>Seems that they are deliberatly trying to exclude the vast majority of
>casual gamers who cant be arsed throwing money at thier PCs every couple of
>months to play the latest mediocre console port with purty pictures
>
>I wish the developers a rapid bankruptcy
>

And you are a casual gamer ??
Or are you just going to torrent-download the game and help accelerate
the developer's Chapter 11 application because it does not meet your
system-limitations?

John Lewis

>
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"Morgan" wrote

>> Seems that they are deliberatly trying to exclude the vast majority of
>> casual gamers who cant be arsed throwing money at thier PCs every
>> couple of months to play the latest mediocre console port with purty
>> pictures

> AS for the system requirements. It's a modern game and needs a reasonably
> modern PC to play it on. This isn't a new phenomenon.

I'm used to reccomended requirements being high and am fine with that. To
make a game where the *minimum* requirements exclude over 60%
(http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html) of potential sales is plain
stupid.

And people wonder why so many game developers go broke
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

rob wrote:
> "Morgan" wrote
>
>>> Seems that they are deliberatly trying to exclude the vast majority
>>> of casual gamers who cant be arsed throwing money at thier PCs every
>>> couple of months to play the latest mediocre console port with purty
>>> pictures
>
>> AS for the system requirements. It's a modern game and needs a
>> reasonably modern PC to play it on. This isn't a new phenomenon.
>
> I'm used to reccomended requirements being high and am fine with
> that. To make a game where the *minimum* requirements exclude over
> 60% (http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html) of potential
> sales is plain stupid.

But it's going to happen, computer power grows exponentially, the leap from
a two year old machine to a modern one is greater then it used to be. It's
the nature of the beast. I'll grant you that it doesn't make a hell of a lot
of marketing sense but if PC games are going to compete with consoles in
terms of eye Kandy then they're going to have to aim at the top end of the
spec range.
 >> Stay informed about: Assassin's Creed: minimum PC requirements 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:31:00 -0500, "Bob Loblaw" <BL.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>Are they trying to compete with Crysis? The minimum requirements for the
>forthcoming PC version of Assassin's Creed seem ridiculously high:
>In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these
>minimum requirements:
>
>Supported OS: Windows XP / Vista (only)
>
>
>Processor: Dual core processor 2.6 GHz Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 X2
>3800+ (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ or better
>recommended)
>
>
>RAM: 2 GB (3 GB recommended)
>
>
>Video Card: 256 MB DirectX 10.0-compliant video card or DirectX
>9.0-compliant card with Shader Model 3.0 or higher (512 MB video card
>recommended) (see supported list)*
>
>
>Sound Card: DirectX 9.0 or 10.0 compliant sound card (5.1 sound card
>recommended)
>
>
>DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 libraries (included on disc)
>
>
>DVD-ROM: DVD-ROM dual-layer drive
>
>
>Hard Drive Space: 12 GB
>
>
so
I'm all set and then some.
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:19:29 +0000, Shawk <shawk.RemoveThis@clara.co.uk.3guesses>
wrote:

>ronald.phillips@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Hard Drive Space: 12 GB"
>>
>> You don't have 12GB of free HD space? Upgrade your 20gb HD, it was
>> small back in 2000.
>
>
>That's the only thing that raised my eyebrows - not because I don't have
>space but because of the size of the game.
>
>The biggest single game on my system currently is COD4 at 6.4gig. Steam
>in it's entirety with all Valve games and a number of 3rd party
>including Prey only comes out at 11.5 overall.
>
>This is an enormous requirement for one game.

Sometime the requried size takes into account the install which many
times puts temp files on your pc for the install process but removes
them at the end.
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