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nacree

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:59 am
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I have had the transmutation specialty for a little while now and it
has only worked once on primals. From a primal earth to a primal
water it made one extra for me. I have been doing a lot of transmutes
on the diamonds and I have never got it to make me extras, has anyone
else had any extras made from transmuting a skyfire or earthstorm
diamond?

Thanks.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:34 am
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I know this is not your specific question but since I'm a
transmutation master also, I'll share my experience...

Out of 6 Primal Might transmutations, I got 3 one time, 2 one time and
1 the remaining attempts.
For arcanite bars I've only ever gotten 2 one time, all the rest were
singles.

Kinda lame.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:38 am
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Yeah, Im a mace specced rogue so I was thinking about dropping alchemy
(even though I spent tons of cash getting my alchemy to 375 +
transmute spec) and picking up blacksmithing to make Dragonstrike and
possibly upgrade it later.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:57 pm
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nacree wrote:
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> Yeah, Im a mace specced rogue so I was thinking about dropping alchemy
> (even though I spent tons of cash getting my alchemy to 375 +
> transmute spec) and picking up blacksmithing to make Dragonstrike and
> possibly upgrade it later.

Is there a tailoring equivalent to the Alchemy specialization?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:57 pm
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In <46042F4D.4400B93A DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca> RogerM <roger.mckay DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca> writes:

> Is there a tailoring equivalent to the Alchemy specialization?

Yes. You can specialize in Spellcloth, Primal Mooncoth, or Shadowcloth.

Whenever you make your specialized cloth, you get *two* pieces.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:57 pm
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John Gordon wrote:
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> In <46042F4D.4400B93A DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca> RogerM <roger.mckay DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca> writes:
>
> > Is there a tailoring equivalent to the Alchemy specialization?
>
> Yes. You can specialize in Spellcloth, Primal Mooncoth, or Shadowcloth.
>
> Whenever you make your specialized cloth, you get *two* pieces.

Cool. What skill level do you need and where do you get the
specialization?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:57 pm
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RogerM <roger.mckay.DeleteThis@ns.sympatico.ca> writes:
>nacree wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, Im a mace specced rogue so I was thinking about dropping alchemy
>> (even though I spent tons of cash getting my alchemy to 375 +
>> transmute spec) and picking up blacksmithing to make Dragonstrike and
>> possibly upgrade it later.

>Is there a tailoring equivalent to the Alchemy specialization?

You can specialize in primal mooncloth, shadowcloth or spellcloth.
You can make all 3 at 350 tailoring, but you get 2x for the type
you specialize in, plus recipes you can buy for shoulders, feet,
chest, and a bag type (20 slot, soulshard, or enchanting)

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Catriona R

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:58 pm
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:41:02 -0000, Brian Westley <westley.TakeThisOut@visi.com> wrote:

>RogerM <roger.mckay.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca> writes:
>>nacree wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, Im a mace specced rogue so I was thinking about dropping alchemy
>>> (even though I spent tons of cash getting my alchemy to 375 +
>>> transmute spec) and picking up blacksmithing to make Dragonstrike and
>>> possibly upgrade it later.
>
>>Is there a tailoring equivalent to the Alchemy specialization?
>
>You can specialize in primal mooncloth, shadowcloth or spellcloth.
>You can make all 3 at 350 tailoring, but you get 2x for the type
>you specialize in, plus recipes you can buy for shoulders, feet,
>chest, and a bag type (20 slot, soulshard, or enchanting)

I believe the bags aren't restricted to the specialisation, only the BoP
items to wear.

Which are driving me mad as I really want the primal mooncloth ones on my
priest, who is currently mining/jewelcrafting. As yet I'm undecided on
whether or not to turn my hunter into a farmer character for me and give
him mining so my priest can have tailoring... never been keen on the idea
of making one of my characters farm for another, but they all trade with
each other a lot anyway these days so maybe it might work out best.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:57 pm
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"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> him mining so my priest can have tailoring... never been keen on the idea
> of making one of my characters farm for another, but they all trade with
> each other a lot anyway these days so maybe it might work out best.

Nothin wrong with doing that. My former rogue main was a
herbalist/enchanter, she gathered all the herbs and sent them to my L35
priest who despite being only L35 happened to be a 300 tailor / 300
alchemist (he was a former bank alt that I levelled to 35 just to get him
those artisan tradeskills...imagine my dismay when I realized he'd have to
level to 58 to train mastery in alchemy/tailoring). He made all my potions
and made me all my profit on sold potions, bags, mooncloth, etc. Heh, that
priest never set foot out of stormwind since dinging 35 and training the
artisan tradeskills...yet logged countless hours and days of playtime
running around the trade district between mailbox, bank, tradegoods vendor,
and auction house Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:57 pm
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"drowland" <silly_putty DeleteThis @NOSPAM.shaw.ca> writes:
>"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM DeleteThis @totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:oqc8031itmeaftevrveknm2ukht87u7kop@4ax.com...
>> him mining so my priest can have tailoring... never been keen on the idea
>> of making one of my characters farm for another, but they all trade with
>> each other a lot anyway these days so maybe it might work out best.

>Nothin wrong with doing that. My former rogue main was a
>herbalist/enchanter, she gathered all the herbs and sent them to my L35
>priest who despite being only L35 happened to be a 300 tailor / 300
>alchemist (he was a former bank alt that I levelled to 35 just to get him
>those artisan tradeskills...imagine my dismay when I realized he'd have to
>level to 58 to train mastery in alchemy/tailoring).

No, just level 50 and a mage level 65 or over to port you.

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Catriona R

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:56 am
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:31:12 GMT, "drowland" <silly_putty.DeleteThis@NOSPAM.shaw.ca>
wrote:

>"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM.DeleteThis@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:oqc8031itmeaftevrveknm2ukht87u7kop@4ax.com...
>> him mining so my priest can have tailoring... never been keen on the idea
>> of making one of my characters farm for another, but they all trade with
>> each other a lot anyway these days so maybe it might work out best.
>
>Nothin wrong with doing that. My former rogue main was a
>herbalist/enchanter, she gathered all the herbs and sent them to my L35
>priest who despite being only L35 happened to be a 300 tailor / 300
>alchemist (he was a former bank alt that I levelled to 35 just to get him
>those artisan tradeskills...imagine my dismay when I realized he'd have to
>level to 58 to train mastery in alchemy/tailoring). He made all my potions
>and made me all my profit on sold potions, bags, mooncloth, etc. Heh, that
>priest never set foot out of stormwind since dinging 35 and training the
>artisan tradeskills...yet logged countless hours and days of playtime
>running around the trade district between mailbox, bank, tradegoods vendor,
>and auction house Smile

Hehe my lvl 50 mage got levelled to 50 for that exact reason, as I wanted a
bag maker - she now has 354 tailoring and 325 enchanting lol. I've always
tried to keep my characters independent of each other; a friend has a pure
farmer character which isn't something I was too keen on, however given
I've already got one character with twinked professions, it's not like I'm
breaking a mould by adjusting my professions a bit to work together better.

Only annoying thing is as part of my changes I'm going to get alchemy (only
profession I don't have yet), and the only character free for it is my lvl
43 paladin... the thought of dragging her up another 7 lvls doesn't appeal
much, as it simply is not my class lol Smile And I'm just trying not to even
think about levelling my lvl 17 blacksmith warrior... maybe that's one
profession I can live without Razz
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Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 60)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 60)
Sgoildubh - Human Mage (lvl 50)
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:04 am
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I think it was Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM DeleteThis @totalise.co.uk> that wrote
something like...

>On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:31:12 GMT, "drowland" <silly_putty DeleteThis @NOSPAM.shaw.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>"Catriona R" <catrionarNOSPAM DeleteThis @totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:oqc8031itmeaftevrveknm2ukht87u7kop@4ax.com...
>>> him mining so my priest can have tailoring... never been keen on the idea
>>> of making one of my characters farm for another, but they all trade with
>>> each other a lot anyway these days so maybe it might work out best.
>>
>>Nothin wrong with doing that. My former rogue main was a
>>herbalist/enchanter, she gathered all the herbs and sent them to my L35
>>priest who despite being only L35 happened to be a 300 tailor / 300
>>alchemist (he was a former bank alt that I levelled to 35 just to get him
>>those artisan tradeskills...imagine my dismay when I realized he'd have to
>>level to 58 to train mastery in alchemy/tailoring). He made all my potions
>>and made me all my profit on sold potions, bags, mooncloth, etc. Heh, that
>>priest never set foot out of stormwind since dinging 35 and training the
>>artisan tradeskills...yet logged countless hours and days of playtime
>>running around the trade district between mailbox, bank, tradegoods vendor,
>>and auction house Smile
>
>Hehe my lvl 50 mage got levelled to 50 for that exact reason, as I wanted a
>bag maker - she now has 354 tailoring and 325 enchanting lol. I've always
>tried to keep my characters independent of each other; a friend has a pure
>farmer character which isn't something I was too keen on, however given
>I've already got one character with twinked professions, it's not like I'm
>breaking a mould by adjusting my professions a bit to work together better.
>
>Only annoying thing is as part of my changes I'm going to get alchemy (only
>profession I don't have yet), and the only character free for it is my lvl
>43 paladin... the thought of dragging her up another 7 lvls doesn't appeal
>much, as it simply is not my class lol Smile And I'm just trying not to even
>think about levelling my lvl 17 blacksmith warrior... maybe that's one
>profession I can live without Razz

You couldn't try turning your paladin into a healadin and pretend it's
a priest? ; )

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:57 pm
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:45:10 GMT, deathsabyss.RemoveThis@yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar)
wrote:

>You couldn't try turning your paladin into a healadin and pretend it's
>a priest? ; )

Unfortunately I still have to actually level, and the 40s isn't a time
where there's many groups going Smile I was mostly holy spec in fact, as that
was what appealed to me the most, just respecced to go more retri in the
hope of killing things before I die of boredom Wink
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:56 am
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I think it was Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM.DeleteThis@totalise.co.uk> that wrote
something like...

>On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:45:10 GMT, deathsabyss.DeleteThis@yahoo.com.au (Ashen Shugar)
>wrote:
>
>>You couldn't try turning your paladin into a healadin and pretend it's
>>a priest? ; )
>
>Unfortunately I still have to actually level, and the 40s isn't a time
>where there's many groups going Smile I was mostly holy spec in fact, as that
>was what appealed to me the most, just respecced to go more retri in the
>hope of killing things before I die of boredom Wink

Well, my paladin is only 25, entirely holy specced so far and I don't
find fights boring. Juggling seals, judgements, consecrations and
heals every fight doesn't seem to leave much time to be bored. I
always use blessing of wisdom with him as a fun fight uses mana. A
real fun fight I had recently was in Redridge taking out Yowler.
Started with Yowler and his two friends but by the time I was able to
drink again, there were 8 dead mobs to loot. Probably only made it
through that fight as I used one of those Love Dummies I still had
from Valentines day. And I had the bestest group a bit later to do
the elite quests. Two pallies, a warrior, a priest and a mage. Was
like a red hot chainsaw through melted "I can't believe it's not
butter"!

Low 40's I'd think SM Cathedral runs shouldn't be too uncommon to get
a few more levels. Could probably tank or heal for them. Then try
and hook into ZF runs as a healer. Uldaman and Mara would be good but
from what I've seen, aren't as common as SM and ZF.

I think (not sure) retribution spec is making your paladin more like a
warrior, while holy makes it more like a caster. I guess I'm really
too low yet to be able to make very good judgements, but running the
deadmines in a group with a retribution spec pally I still ended up
doing more damage than them over the course of the run and I also did
a lot more healing than they did. Some of that may be in the gear I
twinked my pally up with, and with the fact that we were high enough
to not have to worry about crowd control, and just took on 3 or 4 mobs
at once, so if I was a bit more generous in using consecration than
the ret pally, I could give my total dps a nice boost.

Anyway, so far I'm finding the pally more fun than my 50 frost mage.
The mage is fun enough when I can find good mobs to AoE farm, or
taking on similar level elites where you have to pull out all the
tricks to stay alive. But I find I really like juggling the seals and
judgements and cool downs on my pally to bring out his best. : )

Ashen Shugar
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