Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures breaks all the current s..

In article <fvlkuk$cql$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
rridge.DeleteThis@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca says...
> Ross Ridge wrote:

> > Cause that data is only the "best" to them, it is basically useless
> >to anyone outside that (other than a little pointing to say "see that's
> >what they use"). Applying such a one-sided and biased sample and making
> >a blanket "this is representative of the entire gaming community" would
> >be utterly moronic and short-sighted.
>
> There's nothing unreasonable about taking the best available data and
> doing the best you can with it. That's what a lot of small developers
> have to do. Things may have changed, but as a couple years ago research
> companies don't sell any data on what sort of computers people who buy
> games have. Bigger companies have their own surveys, but the only
> objective data available to smaller independent developers is the
> Valve survey.

Whether a data set is of high quality is orthogonal to whether it
measures what you need to know.

If you can make a case that the Valve data set targets the customers you
are interested in, or can be mined to do so, fine. Otherwise you have
no argument.

- Gerry Quinn
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In article <fvm5j4$gvn$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
rridge.DeleteThis@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca says...
> Ross Ridge wrote:
> >Using the statisitics in the Value survey is the closest this debate has
> >come to applying the scientific method.
>
> Zaghadka <president.DeleteThis@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
> >It's either science or it isn't. There is no "almost science" or "closer to
> >science." Debate is *never* science.
>
> The scientific method is the basis of science. In order for it to work,
> you need to be able test the predictions made by using an experiment,
> empirical data, or something else that could falsify the conjecture.
> This is key to the process. Most of the observations and opinions
> mentioned in this debate have all been biased toward verifying the
> person's point of view. The Valve survey data isn't biased towards
> verifying or falsifying anyone's position here.

"Butterflies of the British Isles" is an even more accurate database
than Valve's. So how come it is even less useful for determining the
typical hardware used by MMORPG players?

- Gerry Quinn
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Zaghadka wrote:
> On Thu, 08 May 2008 18:31:46 +1000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
> wrote:
>
>> Thus spake Zaghadka <zaghadka.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>, Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:23 GMT,
>> Anno Domini:
>>
>>>> To offer an alternate, impartial opinion (second-hand): my guy at work is in
>>>> the open beta & has run several chars to 13th. He really loves it & has no
>>>> complaints, other than a bit of instability. It has many new design idioms
>>>> apparently. I guess I'll find out over the next week IF I can clear enough
>>>> disk space to install this behemoth & make it run reasonably on my old rig.
>>> YMMV STOP ;^)
>> STO>8^P!!!
>
> Oh, I am *so* sending you a Western Union telegram.

ROFL - does the US killing-spree service actually still do those? >8^D

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On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:17:39 +1000, Nostromo <nostromo.RemoveThis@nospam.org> wrote:

>Zaghadka wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 18:31:46 +1000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thus spake Zaghadka <zaghadka.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>, Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:23 GMT,
>>> Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>> To offer an alternate, impartial opinion (second-hand): my guy at work is in
>>>>> the open beta & has run several chars to 13th. He really loves it & has no
>>>>> complaints, other than a bit of instability. It has many new design idioms
>>>>> apparently. I guess I'll find out over the next week IF I can clear enough
>>>>> disk space to install this behemoth & make it run reasonably on my old rig.
>>>> YMMV STOP ;^)
>>> STO>8^P!!!
>>
>> Oh, I am *so* sending you a Western Union telegram.
>
>ROFL - does the US killing-spree service actually still do those? >8^D

The USPS is a separate entity from Western Union. Anyhow, I think they
officially quit doing telegrams some years ago.
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On Fri, 09 May 2008 03:32:41 -0500, Michael Cecil <macecil RemoveThis @gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:17:39 +1000, Nostromo <nostromo RemoveThis @nospam.org> wrote:
>
>>Zaghadka wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 18:31:46 +1000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg, Nostromo
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus spake Zaghadka <zaghadka RemoveThis @hotmail.com>, Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:23 GMT,
>>>> Anno Domini:
>>>>
>>>>>> To offer an alternate, impartial opinion (second-hand): my guy at work is in
>>>>>> the open beta & has run several chars to 13th. He really loves it & has no
>>>>>> complaints, other than a bit of instability. It has many new design idioms
>>>>>> apparently. I guess I'll find out over the next week IF I can clear enough
>>>>>> disk space to install this behemoth & make it run reasonably on my old rig.
>>>>> YMMV STOP ;^)
>>>> STO>8^P!!!
>>>
>>> Oh, I am *so* sending you a Western Union telegram.
>>
>>ROFL - does the US killing-spree service actually still do those? >8^D
>
>The USPS is a separate entity from Western Union. Anyhow, I think they
>officially quit doing telegrams some years ago.

I think it was something like 2-3 years ago - I remember seeing it
mentioned on another newsgroup, and being surprised that they hadn't
stopped earlier.
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Thus spake Gerry Quinn <gerryq RemoveThis @indigo.ie>, Fri, 9 May 2008 15:17:42 +0100,
Anno Domini:

>In article <fvdsaa$896$1@registered.motzarella.org>, nostromo RemoveThis @nospam.org
>says...
>
>> He, he. The real issue is that you can't get Blizzard (like most mmos)
>> to delete your account - even if you unsub, you know you can always just
>> re-sub & you're right back in e-crack land where you left off. I guess I
>> could delete my chars b4 I unsub, but that's just so bloody final .
>
>And they'll un-delete them anyway, if you ask...

I shoulda known...these guys are better than drug dealers :-/

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