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George

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:44 pm
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Say I have advanced beckett and I'm sent to torpor during combat after
being blocked. Is there a window after combat but before I head off to
torpor and discard my hand during which I can play Freak Drive?

--George

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CthuluKitty

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:05 pm
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> Say I have advanced beckett and I'm sent to torpor during combat after
> being blocked. Is there a window after combat but before I head off to
> torpor and discard my hand during which I can play Freak Drive?


I'm pretty sure the answer is no. My understanding is that a vampire
sent to torpor in combat goes to torpor, and then combat ends--not vice
versa. So you have to discard your hand prior to the window for Freak
Drive and other end of action effects. This is similar to Cat's
Guidance, which cannot be played to untap by a blocking vampire sent to
torpor during the combat.

On the other hand, you can play a Freak Drive if you get one in the
hand you draw into after discarding, since there's no restriction on
torped vampires playing Action Modifiers.

I understand that LSJ is on vacation. Are there any super nerdy rules
lawyer types out there who can confirm or deny this?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:21 pm
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Yes, this interpretation is the one we used. In a perverse bit of
luck, the first
card in my redrawn hand was combat defense, and the first card after my
hand was
redrawn was freak drive, one card too late, so I couldn't rescue myself.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:58 am
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> Yes, this interpretation is the one we used. In a perverse bit of
> luck, the first
> card in my redrawn hand was combat defense, and the first card after my
> hand was
> redrawn was freak drive, one card too late, so I couldn't rescue myself.

Bad luck indeed. Without it Jyhad would be Chess.

I think if you're going to run ADV Beckett you'll need to seriously
commit to combat defense, which is easy to do with FOR PRO and +hand
size.

Is this George from Worcester I'm talking to? This is Jesse from
Northampton in case you don't recognize the handle. Perhaps you should
consult our local expert on Gangrel combat in regards to keeping
Beckett out of torpor.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:18 pm
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> Yes, this interpretation is the one we used. In a perverse bit of
> luck, the first
> card in my redrawn hand was combat defense, and the first card after my
> hand was
> redrawn was freak drive, one card too late, so I couldn't rescue myself.

Bad luck indeed. Without it Jyhad would be Chess.

I think if you're going to run ADV Beckett you'll need to seriously
commit to combat defense, which is easy to do with FOR PRO and +hand
size.

Is this George from Massachusetts I'm talking to? This is Jesse from
Northampton in case you don't recognize the handle. Perhaps you should
consult our local expert on Gangrel combat in regards to keeping
Beckett out of torpor.
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