Aberrant: First Look questions

"Sea Wasp" <seawasp RemoveThis @wizvax.net> wrote in message
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>
> Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
> appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
> get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
> Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?
>

Well Aberrant is not a superhero game--its a people with powers in a vary
narrow setting game--technology like Iron Man should be possible (as in
there were wierdo invenntors in Adventure!) so they should have had
analogues of the games had been written in chronological order, and of
course really were connected in other than the barest ways of setting so
that they could call them a "line" --WW history with single games who don't
mesh with each other should have warned ya bit. (Even if in the same
"setting")

You could of course fake it..by letting someone buy powers and saying
they're a Nova genius whose Nova powers are devices powered by their
inherant quantum (which would get you powered armored guys ad such) but
since Aberrant tech isn't hugely advanced from Earth of the era you aren't
going to see "normal" people making such technology and getting it to work.
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Sidhain wrote:
>
> Well Aberrant is not a superhero game

Nah, it is a superhero game.
It just doesn't try to cover the whole genre.
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Sidhain wrote:
> "Sea Wasp" <seawasp.RemoveThis@wizvax.net> wrote in message
> news:408309FA.4080506@wizvax.net...
>
>>Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
>>appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
>>get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
>>Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?
>>
>
>
>
> You could of course fake it..by letting someone buy powers and saying
> they're a Nova genius whose Nova powers are devices powered by their
> inherant quantum (which would get you powered armored guys ad such) but
> since Aberrant tech isn't hugely advanced from Earth of the era you aren't
> going to see "normal" people making such technology and getting it to work.
>

There were optional rules for going this exact route in the Abberrant
Player's Guide. It's assumed that all such "super-technology" was
destroyed in the Abberrant Wars, which is why it didn't exist in the
Trinity future.

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"No turning back where the end is in sight.
There's a job to be done, a fight to be won."



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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:06:20 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp DeleteThis @wizvax.net> wrote:

>
> Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
>appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
>get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
>Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?

There are no people like Captain America or Thor in the Aberrant
universe. Gadgeteers were slated for a later release.
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"David Johnston" <rgormannospam DeleteThis @telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:06:20 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp DeleteThis @wizvax.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
> >appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
> >get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
> >Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?
>
> There are no people like Captain America or Thor in the Aberrant
> universe.

The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?


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> The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
> human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
> universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?
>
>

Mostly the fact that humans can only reach a certian potential of
attributes--Captian America is /on par/ with many superheroes, while
Aberrant could mimic him he'd have to be a Nova to accuratly portray his
capabilities (and spend his Nova points on default attributes and
skills)--the system can do it, but its the "normal human are flubs in one
attribute" that causes the issues--i.e core Storyteller system. Being a
apportioned point system (spend X points but only in the following pattern)
rather than a broad point system--here are X points spend however you
like--creates the problem.
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"Sidhain" <sidhain DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> > The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a
highly-trained
> > human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our
real
> > universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?
> >
> >
>
> Mostly the fact that humans can only reach a certian potential of
> attributes--Captian America is /on par/ with many superheroes, while
> Aberrant could mimic him he'd have to be a Nova to accuratly portray his
> capabilities (and spend his Nova points on default attributes and
> skills)--the system can do it, but its the "normal human are flubs in one
> attribute" that causes the issues--i.e core Storyteller system. Being a
> apportioned point system (spend X points but only in the following
pattern)
> rather than a broad point system--here are X points spend however you
> like--creates the problem.

Yes, I see what you mean. It's a while since I played Storyteller (Vampire)
and I had forgotten how the point allocation system worked.


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David Meadows
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:06:20 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp DeleteThis @wizvax.net> wrote:

>
> Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
>appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
>get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
>Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?

Since all Aberrants are essentially what other games would consider
mutants (or accidental scientific triggered mutants) not a huge
suprise.
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:36:50 +0100, "David Meadows"
<david.RemoveThis@no.spam.here.uk> wrote:

>"David Johnston" <rgormannospam.RemoveThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>news:408327a6.19699693@news.telusplanet.net...
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:06:20 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp.RemoveThis@wizvax.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
>> >appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
>> >get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
>> >Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?
>>
>> There are no people like Captain America or Thor in the Aberrant
>> universe.
>
>The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
>human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
>universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?

The fact that in practice, he's superhuman even if his concept doesn't
make him one. You _can_ get close analogs of someone like him (minus
shield) using Mega-Attributes though.
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:27:25 +0100, "David Meadows"
<david RemoveThis @no.spam.here.uk> wrote:

>"Sidhain" <sidhain RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> > The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a
>highly-trained
>> > human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our
>real
>> > universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Mostly the fact that humans can only reach a certian potential of
>> attributes--Captian America is /on par/ with many superheroes, while
>> Aberrant could mimic him he'd have to be a Nova to accuratly portray his
>> capabilities (and spend his Nova points on default attributes and
>> skills)--the system can do it, but its the "normal human are flubs in one
>> attribute" that causes the issues--i.e core Storyteller system. Being a
>> apportioned point system (spend X points but only in the following
>pattern)
>> rather than a broad point system--here are X points spend however you
>> like--creates the problem.
>
>Yes, I see what you mean. It's a while since I played Storyteller (Vampire)
>and I had forgotten how the point allocation system worked.

Though it's not really that bad; if you put the "bad" (i.e. average)
attributes in the mental set, and then buy up a couple of them with
Bonus Points it shouldn't look off; while Cap isn't stupid, he's never
come across as generally brilliant.
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In article <hgUgc.34497$Y%6.4460274@wards.force9.net>,
David Meadows <david RemoveThis @no.spam.here.uk> wrote:
>The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
>human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
>universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?

Nothing. He's just on a lower power scale. In fact, he's really a
Daredevil with some Super Science in the form of his shield (an expenditure
of Background points). He'd be better built in Adventure rules then frozen
in a block of ice for a few decades. Maybe give him a couple nova points to
spend after revival (like, say, buying the ability to survive being frozen in
ice).

Dave Van Domelen, raised the Iron Man issue during Aberrant playtest
too, as did a lot of people. It's a Setting Thing.
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:36:50 +0100, "David Meadows"
<david.TakeThisOut@no.spam.here.uk> wrote:

>"David Johnston" <rgormannospam.TakeThisOut@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
>news:408327a6.19699693@news.telusplanet.net...
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:06:20 GMT, Sea Wasp <seawasp.TakeThisOut@wizvax.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Am I just missing something, or am I correct in noticing that there
>> >appears to be a large "gap" in the potential types of Supers you can
>> >get from the novas -- specifically, gadgeteers like Iron Man and
>> >Weapon-oriented types like Captain America and the original Thor?
>>
>> There are no people like Captain America or Thor in the Aberrant
>> universe.
>
>The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
>human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
>universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?

The shield.
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Sidhain wrote:
>>The core concept of Captain America is that he is simply a highly-trained
>>human -- someone like him *could* (but probably doesn't) exist in our real
>>universe. What prevents him from existing in the Aberrant universe?
>>
>>
>
>
> Mostly the fact that humans can only reach a certian potential of
> attributes--Captian America is /on par/ with many superheroes, while
> Aberrant could mimic him he'd have to be a Nova to accuratly portray his
> capabilities (and spend his Nova points on default attributes and
> skills)--the system can do it, but its the "normal human are flubs in one
> attribute" that causes the issues--i.e core Storyteller system. Being a
> apportioned point system (spend X points but only in the following pattern)
> rather than a broad point system--here are X points spend however you
> like--creates the problem.

AND the fact that his origin and shield aren't really in the
picture pretty much completes the impossibility. Cap may not BE his
Shield, but it IS one of the things that defines him.



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