[4e] Druids?

Seebs wrote:
> Someone on one of my forums said that druids, barbarians, paladins, and
> bards are all going to be absent from the 4E PHB.
>
> This seems a bit drastic. Other people have said at least some of them
> are in. I have no clue.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> The rationale I saw presented was that druids would be an example of a
> different power source ("wild" or "primal" or something), and that would
> be why they were delayed.
>
> I haven't formed much of an opinion yet, although I think I'll be very sad
> if there's no paladins in the PHB. They've been sort of a core feature for
> me.
>

The PHB classes are fighter, wizard, cleric, rogue, warlock, warlord
(heh), paladin and ranger. The druid and barbarian are most likely going
to appear in the PHB2, next year.

The paladin is no longer a LG-only "knight in shining armour", but a
straight-up divine champion. You can have good and evil paladins, and
they focus on smiting the enemy with lots of glowy special effects.
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"Hong Ooi" wrote: .
> Seebs wrote:
>> Someone on one of my forums said that druids, barbarians, paladins, and
>> bards are all going to be absent from the 4E PHB.
>>
>> This seems a bit drastic. Other people have said at least some of them
>> are in. I have no clue.
>>
>> Anyone know?
>>
>> The rationale I saw presented was that druids would be an example of a
>> different power source ("wild" or "primal" or something), and that would
>> be why they were delayed.
>>
>> I haven't formed much of an opinion yet, although I think I'll be very
>> sad
>> if there's no paladins in the PHB. They've been sort of a core feature
>> for
>> me.
>>
>
> The PHB classes are fighter, wizard, cleric, rogue, warlock, warlord
> (heh), paladin and ranger. The druid and barbarian are most likely going
> to appear in the PHB2, next year.
>
> The paladin is no longer a LG-only "knight in shining armour", but a
> straight-up divine champion. You can have good and evil paladins, and they
> focus on smiting the enemy with lots of glowy special effects.

Hahahhahahahaha.... they are finally getting back around to playing the D&D
the way I learned how to play. Just about as soon as Paladins originally
came out we had homebrewed Anti-Paladins. The Dragon article back in 83
about anti-paladins was the first formal recognition of paladin variants,
and by then we already had plentiful paladin variants.

On a side note, it seems the flexible structure of 4e will allow both GM's
and players to easily create variant character and monster classes and/or
easily customize characters and monsters. Looks like some more work is being
put back on the shoulders of the GM's/Players, In this case, I think it's a
good thing and will lead to a more interesting variety of games with
different themes, styles, and play experiences.

Because Wotc is now part of a larger business structure, it appears that the
"More is Less" philosophy is becoming even more rooted in, and that is a bit
unfortunate. Don't be surprised to see even more add-on books and variants
as the core books feature less useable material and more fluff or "set
decoration".

Re,
Dirk
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