[40k] 5th Ed soon to be released?

Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Blackheart said

> On Jan 10, 4:08 pm, Myrmidon <im....RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>
>>         Hmmm, as a player who usually plays against Marines, I hav
>> en't really had a problem with, and rather like the current 4th
>> edition codex.  
>
> you play Tyranids.

and most of his opponents are high off his hair spray by the second turn
anyway.

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"Kurt" <kolonelk DeleteThis @gnospammail.com> wrote in message
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> It was twenty years ago today, Ward B. taught the band to play:
>> Kurt" wrote...

>>>>> However, the Codex will be redone and will feature new models.
>>>>> Pariah and Immortals are going to be redone.
>>>> Hmm, I like the current Immortals. Must make sure I have all I'll ever
>>>> need
>>>> before GW screw them up.
>>>>
>>> Can't say I'm that fussed over them either way, I'd like to see
>>> something a little more interesting done to most of that range.
>>
>> The entire Necron range needs to be a lot more interesting. Its as
>> boring as the Chaos v4 codex, and that's saying something.
>>
> It's a pretty limited concept to work with. Space skeletons!

seriously. why don't they just go ahead and make a limited edition Superted
figure while they're at it?
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"Kurt" <kolonelk.TakeThisOut@gnospammail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I bought some plastic chaos termies for turning into oblits, but that's
> pretty much it. I'm pretty bored with gaming as a whole right now
> though, so there's an even chance they will get ebayed before I do a
> thing with them.

I bought the new Necron lord released for Apocalypse, mainly 'cause I'd
heard they might be limited editions. It sits here on my shelf, un-opened in
it's packaging.

The only other thing I've bought recently is a box of Ogre bulls with xmas
money, mainly to see what they'd look like built & painted. I've almost done
two, and they don't look too bad. Now, should I keep them as a DoW ogre unit
for other armies or start a small Ogre force ... ?

Cheers, Martyn
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"Myrmidon" <imnot.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Xns9A22DD26ED7EDrsingers@IP-Hidden>,
> rsingers.TakeThisOut@finger.hotmail.com says...
>> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Blackheart said

>> > you play Tyranids.
>
> That's just an ugly rumor! And if you point to my carapace, I'll
> poke you with my talon...

Just so long as you keep your Ovipositor to yourself...

>>
> Well duh! I've got the 'toxic miasma' bio-morph. Besides, it's
> far cheaper than getting them all sloopy drunk just to win a few games.
>
> Anyway, you're just jealous that the chicks all dig my hair.

Where I'm from we call that behavior scratching for Junebugs.

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In article <9a9b9b11-6fd0-4051-bde0-61bb0dd8cca3
@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, blackheart666_2000 RemoveThis @yahoo.com says...
> On Jan 11, 3:44=A0am, Robert Singers <rsing... RemoveThis @finger.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Blackheart said
> >
> > > On Jan 10, 4:08=A0pm, Myrmidon <im... RemoveThis @home.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Hmmm, as a player who usually plays against Marines, I =
> hav
> > >> en't really had a problem with, and rather like the current 4th
> > >> edition codex. =A0
> >
> > > you play Tyranids.
> >
> > and most of his opponents are high off his hair spray by the second turn
> > anyway.
> >
>
> and here I thought it was the cheap beer that Butch was buying us at
> GenCon...
>
Hey now! Butch may be easy - but damnit, he's not cheap!

Myr

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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:02:51 -0500, Myrmidon <imnot.TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:

>In article <Xns9A22DD26ED7EDrsingers@IP-Hidden>,
>rsingers@finger.hotmail.com says...
>> Between saving the world and having a spot of tea Blackheart said
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 4:08 pm, Myrmidon <im....TakeThisOut@home.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>         Hmmm, as a player who usually plays against Marines, I hav
>> >> en't really had a problem with, and rather like the current 4th
>> >> edition codex.  
>> >
>> > you play Tyranids.
>
> That's just an ugly rumor!

Well, you got one part of that right... and it wasn't the "rumor"
either.

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It was twenty years ago today, Blackheart taught the band to play:
> On Jan 10, 7:28 pm, Kurt <kolon....DeleteThis@gnospammail.com> wrote:
>> It was twenty years ago today, Blackheart taught the band to play:> On Jan 10, 6:06 pm, Seamus <fomorianw....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The only real drawback AFAICT was that the mechanics were utterly
>>>> gummed up with hazards, meticulous charts and options.
>>> god I miss 2nd Ed....
>> There are things I don't miss, like some of the stupider Strategy (haw)
>> cards (Virus Outbreak, etc),
>
> we called them "Tragedy" cards.. and Virus Outbreak was promptly
> removed from the deck and thrown into a box.
>
I don't think we ever got to that point, but I know a few times it was
drawn and never played.

>> The stupid armour penetration rules, Wolf
>> Guard Terminators with Assault Cannons and Cyclone Launchers, Berzerker
>> Terminators with 2+ on 2d6 (where's Clay when you need him?), etc.
>
> both were easily houseruled... though I must admit to partaking in 2+
> on 2d6 Khorne Terminators from time to time.
>
> really though.. with certain weapons having really big negative armor
> modifiers (-6 or... less?) that rerally wasn't that big of a deal to
> me.
>
I don't think they came up much here, and sooner or later everything
would die to a lascannon or multimelta anyway.

> armor penetration was definitly no worse then it is now...
>
No better though, which is the problem.

>> What I do miss is my Farseer with the Special-issue Gyrostabilised
>> Monowheel... Or the thoroughly ludicrous Solitaire on Jetbike who would
>> happily drive-by an entire squad without breaking a sweat.
>>
>
> I really miss alot of the RT era craziness... like the first Realm of
> Chaos.
>
> "This is my Chaos Spawn Genestealer thing... it's invisible, it has 40
> attacks a 36" run move, and can jump another 24" to charge. But since
> it's also has the 'burning body' mutation... I can use this cotton
> ball to represent it for the cloud of smoke around it's body."
>
I had a giant that had a lascannon arm. He was fun, but the leader of
the warband was a goddamn halfling, so it all balanced out.

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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:59:13 +1100, Kurt <kolonelk RemoveThis @gnospammail.com>
wrote:

>It was twenty years ago today, Blackheart taught the band to play:
>> On Jan 10, 7:28 pm, Kurt <kolon... RemoveThis @gnospammail.com> wrote:
>>> It was twenty years ago today, Blackheart taught the band to play:> On Jan 10, 6:06 pm, Seamus <fomorianw... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

>>> The stupid armour penetration rules, Wolf
>>> Guard Terminators with Assault Cannons and Cyclone Launchers, Berzerker
>>> Terminators with 2+ on 2d6 (where's Clay when you need him?), etc.
>>
>> both were easily houseruled... though I must admit to partaking in 2+
>> on 2d6 Khorne Terminators from time to time.
>>
>> really though.. with certain weapons having really big negative armor
>> modifiers (-6 or... less?) that rerally wasn't that big of a deal to
>> me.
>>
>I don't think they came up much here, and sooner or later everything
>would die to a lascannon or multimelta anyway.

Except Makari! Little bugger took a battlecannon, multi-melta,
lascannon, a few heavy bolters, a heavy flamer, and kept standing
through it all.

Then a Land Speeder pilot pulled out his pistol and shot him dead.


>>> What I do miss is my Farseer with the Special-issue Gyrostabilised
>>> Monowheel... Or the thoroughly ludicrous Solitaire on Jetbike who would
>>> happily drive-by an entire squad without breaking a sweat.
>>>
>>
>> I really miss alot of the RT era craziness... like the first Realm of
>> Chaos.
>>
>> "This is my Chaos Spawn Genestealer thing... it's invisible, it has 40
>> attacks a 36" run move, and can jump another 24" to charge. But since
>> it's also has the 'burning body' mutation... I can use this cotton
>> ball to represent it for the cloud of smoke around it's body."
>>
>I had a giant that had a lascannon arm. He was fun, but the leader of
>the warband was a goddamn halfling, so it all balanced out.

I miss the sustained fire super long range large blast vortex missile
launchers. Man, those old kustom weapon charts were FUN!

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>>6. Close combat rules amended with a combat resolution phase similar
>>to fantasy
>
> Yay, my Orks are more dangerous in big mobz!

wait. basically, what youre saying is this is returning us to the days when
one single dark eldar leader can zoom over to the end of a 10 man firing
line and kill everyone in one turn again.

wonderful.

>>7. Single vehicle damage table.
>
> Simplified vehicle damage... not sure on that. (Looks at old
> datafax.) Then again...

eh. theyll never get vehicles right.

>>8. Vehicles without a WS in CC always get hit in the rear armour.
>
> Cool. That should help eliminate whining about where my Tankbustas
> charge the vehicle.
>

and why do things always have to be in me when gw make rules?

>>9. Vehicles able to ram
>
> Finally! About bloody time that's back.


agreed

>>10. Other vehicle amendments
>
> Hmm...
>

slaneeshian vibrocannon anyone?

>>11. Mission rules changed in a similar manner to Apocalypse (no more
>>Alpha, Gamma or Omega).
>
> Not sure I like this so much. Too simple will cause a problem.

well remember what happened with 3rd edition? i smell a repeat.

>>12. Only non vehicle non swarm troop choices are scoring units (Note I
>>did not say infantry)
>
> This I like. I hate swarms and TMCs holding objectives.

wtf cant they?

>>13. Vehicles types are adjusted (the rumoured skimmer nerf)
>
> Hmm again...

much like when they are in bed trying to find the clitorous, gw will never
get it right.

>>Overall the ruleset hasn't changed dramatically but areas have been
>>clarified, streamlined and in some cases brought closer to 2nd
>>edition.
>>
>>+++
>>
>>I worry whenever GW proclaims its intent to "streamline" something.
>>Especially when I see the term in the same sentence as "2nd Ed".

i loved second edition. just needed some fixing but it was better than the
rest of the rules combined.
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"Blackheart" <blackheart666_2000 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 10, 6:06 pm, Seamus <fomorianw... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> The only real drawback AFAICT was that the mechanics were utterly
> gummed up with hazards, meticulous charts and options.

god I miss 2nd Ed....

me too i even miss pshycic phases
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"Blackheart" <blackheart666_2000.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 10, 7:28 pm, Kurt <kolon....RemoveThis@gnospammail.com> wrote:
> It was twenty years ago today, Blackheart taught the band to play:> On Jan
> 10, 6:06 pm, Seamus <fomorianw....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> The only real drawback AFAICT was that the mechanics were utterly
> >> gummed up with hazards, meticulous charts and options.
>
> > god I miss 2nd Ed....
>
> There are things I don't miss, like some of the stupider Strategy (haw)
> cards (Virus Outbreak, etc),

we called them "Tragedy" cards.. and Virus Outbreak was promptly
removed from the deck and thrown into a box.


>The stupid armour penetration rules, Wolf
> Guard Terminators with Assault Cannons and Cyclone Launchers, Berzerker
> Terminators with 2+ on 2d6 (where's Clay when you need him?), etc.

both were easily houseruled... though I must admit to partaking in 2+
on 2d6 Khorne Terminators from time to time.

really though.. with certain weapons having really big negative armor
modifiers (-6 or... less?) that rerally wasn't that big of a deal to
me.

armor penetration was definitly no worse then it is now...

hehe...reminds me of the time colonal shaefer and his last chancers were in
combat with this chaos lord (believe it or not, the squad could take down
anyone if you gave chaefer a powerfist. and i mean anyone.) well due to bad
rolls on my part and good rolls on his, my squad got slaughtered (though i
took out his bodyguards) and all i had left was shaefer with one wound. his
chaos lord with all 4 marks, a demon weapon and a power fist, 2+ save and a
d-field, as well as pyschic powers activated, was standing there facing off
against shaefer in all his carapace armor glory.

both characters had one wound left, because the chaos lords combat drugs
wounded him.

his sergeant from his tac squad decides during the next shooting phase he
was going to try to kill shaefer with his bolt pistol. i laid five dollars
on the table and bet that he would kill his own man. sure enough, he pulled
the trigger and got his guy right in the face, bypassing a 3+ d-field, a 4+
save from prescience, and rolling 2 on a 3+ save because of the bolt
pistols -1 to armor.

i laughed so hard i thougth i would split. i lost the game, but i won a very
important moral victory.
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> I don't think they came up much here, and sooner or later everything would
> die to a lascannon or multimelta anyway.
>

i miss my multimeltas *wipes a tear* back when they were useful for
something besides tankbusting....which they excelled at.
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>dark eldar are supposed to be sinister and scary to your average guardsman
>or guardian, right?


depends...my guardmen hold them down and take turns punching them in the
kidneys before making them dress like women and use coolaid for lipstick.

....its lonely on the war front and eldar look enough like women that you can
squint and pretend.
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